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Dante Exum: shoulder injury

Et tu Brute said:
Hey am I clutching at straws with the thinking that no news is good news?
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I remember when Alec was having his shoulder problems and we heard that he's taking "second opinion" from doctors across the country. It didn't end up well... several days later he had his surgery and missed the whole season. I wonder if Dante's contract status will have any effect on what he decides to do. From what I read, it seems like surgery gives you the best long-term prognosis, but will likely have him miss the entire season, while non-surgical rehabilitation might get him in play shape sooner but will increase the chances of re-injury in the future. If the Jazz and him agree to an extension it's probably best for both parties for him to get the surgery. If not - Dante will probably want to play this season and show he's worth a new contract in the summer.
 
DownUnder said:
An agent is going to say his player only deserves a small payday ???
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I don't think I said that.
Agent could say nothing at all though.

Or say something like we are going to work with the jazz to try to get a deal done. Or we will try to get the best deal that we believe Dante deserves. Or any number of other things.
Didn't need to use the words big payday or whatever. (Tbh, I don't even remember the actual wording, just remember it being something like that)
 
Shad said:
How is it delusional to say he's injury prone.... when he actually is? He's 22 with soon to be 3 season long injuries. I'd love to hear what you or who you consider injury prone if he isn't.
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3? I remember the knee and now the shoulder. What's the 3rd one?
 
stitches said:
I remember when Alec was having his shoulder problems and we heard that he's taking "second opinion" from doctors across the country. It didn't end up well... several days later he had his surgery and missed the whole season. I wonder if Dante's contract status will have any effect on what he decides to do. From what I read, it seems like surgery gives you the best long-term prognosis, but will likely have him miss the entire season, while non-surgical rehabilitation might get him in play shape sooner but will increase the chances of re-injury in the future. If the Jazz and him agree to an extension it's probably best for both parties for him to get the surgery. If not - Dante will probably want to play this season and show he's worth a new contract in the summer.
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This...

There are lots of examples of guys not having surgery on shoulders and knees and coming back and being fine. Surgery will always be pushed as the best option though. Really depends on the serverity of the ligament damage if its not a complete tear your body is capable of healing on its own.
 
elan_prodigy said:
This...

There are lots of examples of guys not having surgery on shoulders and knees and coming back and being fine. Surgery will always be pushed as the best option though. Really depends on the serverity of the ligament damage if its not a complete tear your body is capable of healing on its own.
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surgery is the best option. we've seen players come back from shoulder injuries too early and they aren't the same.

yes it blows he out another year. i think he explodes with Mitchell this year if healthy.
the positives are he is still a kid, put in the hard work, and will be back next year.
lets give him a reasonable sum, and not lose the fruits of the labor (by us or him).

we arent in a position to let talent go. with Dante's upside i still want to benefit from
our #5 overall draft pick.

dante get the surgery, and come back strong next year. you're still a kid, and have a long future ahead of you.
 
Does anyone know what is with him.
Is he having still options or what.
Normally teams decide the path after few days.
 
Revolution 9 said:
surgery is the best option. we've seen players come back from shoulder injuries too early and they aren't the same.

yes it blows he out another year. i think he explodes with Mitchell this year if healthy.
the positives are he is still a kid, put in the hard work, and will be back next year.
lets give him a reasonable sum, and not lose the fruits of the labor (by us or him).

we arent in a position to let talent go. with Dante's upside i still want to benefit from
our #5 overall draft pick.

dante get the surgery, and come back strong next year. you're still a kid, and have a long future ahead of you.
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Agree. We're not going to win the title this year. Need to think of the long term. If he's not 100 percent and he comes back, he risks further injury.
 
A lot depends on how severe the separation is. Sometimes MRI's can make things look worse then they are because of swelling in this area and a conservative approach may have as good an outcome as surgery.
 
Revolution 9 said:
surgery is the best option. we've seen players come back from shoulder injuries too early and they aren't the same.

yes it blows he out another year. i think he explodes with Mitchell this year if healthy.
the positives are he is still a kid, put in the hard work, and will be back next year.
lets give him a reasonable sum, and not lose the fruits of the labor (by us or him).

we arent in a position to let talent go. with Dante's upside i still want to benefit from
our #5 overall draft pick.

dante get the surgery, and come back strong next year. you're still a kid, and have a long future ahead of you.
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If it was possible Id rehab and play, be back by Allstar and look to get surgery in the offseason if needed.
 
sonofthebigdog said:
A lot depends on how severe the separation is. Sometimes MRI's can make things look worse then they are because of swelling in this area and a conservative approach may have as good an outcome as surgery.
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Really good point. Surgery has its own drawbacks. It's not a magic bullet for ensuring there are no future problems.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
All I know is that when you have a dream and your path is blocked, it is not easy and can be painful, and some people never overcome the obstacles. As to say his injury is not career-ending, I think you fail to realize that it is troubling. It is the second major injury in Dante's short career. It could be a sign that he will not endure in the NBA. Injuries take their toll. Look at AK47. What many don't realize is the series of many small injuries he had that gradually affected him and short-changed his career. By the time of his retirement, he was only the shell of his former athletic self. It's easy to criticize someone, but if you have not had similar experiences, it's not fair to judge.
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Really, dude - really? We're supposed to feel sorry for Andrei Kirilenko?
 
elan_prodigy said:
If it was possible Id rehab and play, be back by Allstar and look to get surgery in the offseason if needed.
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Im sure in some cases this is, and has been a legitimate option. If that's true here, sure we do it. I think there is a very small chance for this, but I would love it.
 
Shad said:
How is it delusional to say he's injury prone.... when he actually is? He's 22 with soon to be 3 season long injuries. I'd love to hear what you or who you consider injury prone if he isn't.
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I would have gone with some delusional comment. Or something about his hemorrhoids.

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Dante should take the $17,000,000 contract he received based on his daddy's reputation and take a permanent vacation back to Australia while he still has a functioning body left.
 
Steve Starks and Utah Jazz twitter have said to pay attention to the official Jazz twitter today...
 
I just watched the video of Dante's injury. It looks like he got landed on but instead of rolling hard to roll onto his back instead of his shoulder he pile-drives himself into the ground right onto his shoulder. Almost hate to say it but it looked like if he would have taken the contact stronger and/or rolled more quickly he might have spared himself the direct shoulder hit to the ground. We all saw how afraid of contact he's been pretty much from the start and I think that may have affected him here.

...Ducks for cover...don't shoot me!
 
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