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The case for Ricky Rubio

Rubashov said:
Rubbish. You Sydney cave dweller! You people know nothing about anything up there, except maybe fake tans and designer garbage. thought he and D Favs had some good chemistry, I liked the way he pushed the pace, lots to build on
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But, you know, the Jazz started their run with both Rubio and Gobert on the bench. And not to say that the Jazz were better with Mitchell at the point but their +/- spread was.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
But, you know, the Jazz started their run with both Rubio and Gobert on the bench. And not to say that the Jazz were better with Mitchell at the point but their +/- spread was.
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Part of that is because Denver rode their starters hard through the first three quarters. When they finally committed to a bench unit our bench ate them like a cheeseburger. And when we matched up against starters, ours were better rested. Depth matters.
 
I was skeptical a week ago but am now sold. I thought his lack of range would be a burden on this roster. It's how he is always moving and doing something smart with the ball that has brought a security to the offense. The D wears them down and Ricky seems to take care of the rest. His pace of play will make the altitude of Salt Lake an asset again.
 
We are 4th in the NBA in assists per field goal made.

Last year we were 23rd.
The year before, 27th.

Awesome.
 
sahlensguy said:
I was skeptical a week ago but am now sold. I thought his lack of range would be a burden on this roster. It's how he is always moving and doing something smart with the ball that has brought a security to the offense. The D wears them down and Ricky seems to take care of the rest. His pace of play will make the altitude of Salt Lake an asset again.
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Rubio’s always pushing the pace. When the rest of the team figures out how to keep up with that. . . it’s going to be a beautiful thing. RR is a perfect PG for Quin Snyder. Love that combination and see great things coming from both of them as this team evolves.
 
Ellis269 said:
Rubio’s always pushing the pace. When the rest of the team figures out how to keep up with that. . . it’s going to be a beautiful thing. RR is a perfect PG for Quin Snyder. Love that combination and see great things coming from both of them as this team evolves.
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I like how Rubio doesn't make it all about Rubio. The ball is always in his hands but he plays the system. I also like how Rubio had said that no coach has ever talked to him as much as Quin does. They might be perfect for each other.
 
sahlensguy said:
I like how Rubio doesn't make it all about Rubio. The ball is always in his hands but he plays the system. I also like how Rubio had said that no coach has ever talked to him as much as Quin does. They might be perfect for each other.
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P&R takes time and practice to perfect. I’m ecstatic to see Rubio and Jingles working P&R with both Favors and Gobert. That 4 man game has some serious half-court potential if Hood ever becomes a consistent shooter/scorer to help space the floor.
 
I just hope he can continue to be a "threat" at mid-range and from the 3. I think Snyders shoot the ball if you're open mentality may bring the confidence out in Rubio.
 
Obviously it doesn't matter cause we will never know but anybody think that Rubio may have been worse had Hayward stayed? I love Rubio w/ the ball, I hate Rubio standing in the corner.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
We are 4th in the NBA in assists per field goal made.

Last year we were 23rd.
The year before, 27th.

Awesome.
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Ricky Rubio was traded to the Jazz for the draft pick that will come next year from the Enes Kanter trade. Kanter was later traded to NY for Carmelo Anthony - who will likely opt out of his contract and seek a bigger market after he submarines the Thunder title hopes this year.

Rubio > ‘Melo > Kanter

Jazz made out like ****ing bandits.
 
Ellis269 said:
Ricky Rubio was traded to the Jazz for the draft pick that will come next year from the Enes Kanter trade. Kanter was later traded to NY for Carmelo Anthony - who will likely opt out of his contract and seek a bigger market after he submarines the Thunder title hopes this year.

Rubio > ‘Melo > Kanter

Jazz made out like ****ing bandits.
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It was a coup. If the Jazz sat on their hands, they would have lost the $16 million of expiring salary-cap space necessary to pull it off.
 
sahlensguy said:
It was a coup. If the Jazz sat on their hands, they would have lost the $16 million of expiring salary-cap space necessary to pull it off.
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Yep. And with the aggressive acquisitions of the Thunder this year, that pick will be conveyed and likely won’t be all that great. Getting Rubio for a 2018 mid-to-late 20’s pick is a damn steal. Any of Jingles, Rubio or Udoh could very well end up being the steal of the year if they keep playing the way that they’ve started the season.
 
Ellis269 said:
Yep. And with the aggressive acquisitions of the Thunder this year, that pick will be conveyed and likely won’t be all that great. Getting Rubio for a 2018 mid-to-late 20’s pick is a damn steal. Any of Jingles, Rubio or Udoh could very well end up being the steal of the year if they keep playing the way that they’ve started the season.
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I know he has started slow shooting % wise but don't forget the Mitchell deal either. DL had a hell of an offseason.
 
MDAV28 said:
I know he has started slow shooting % wise but don't forget the Mitchell deal either. DL had a hell of an offseason.
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Mitchell for a late pick and Trey Lyles was one of the steals of the draft. I don’t care about the slow start. The kid has talent, confidence and a work ethic that is rare. He’ll be just fine. It’s nice to even see him getting playing time off the bat considering how deep this team is right now. DL has had two great offseasons and I expect the Jazz to continue getting better as a result of that. Feels like they’ve picked up right where they left off after beating the Clippers in seven. Lots of exciting things to look forward to.
 
Biggest acquisition in the Lindsey era was convincing the Millers to cut ties with Corbin and bring in Snyder. If Ty were still the coach, it wouldn't matter what players Lindsey got. But yeah, he absolutely killed it this year with Rubio, Mitchell, Sefalosha and Udoh. Jazz DNA: defensive, team-first players with no egos. Hayward appears to be the last of the "me-first" guys the Jazz had.

As for Rubio, it was an incredible balancing act. Everyone thought Hayward was demanding Hill and Ingles be re-signed before he'd return. DL refused to give in to Hill's outrageous demands and actually traded for a player who would have been an even better fit for Gordon. Still worried about the offense, though.
 
Jack Strop said:
Biggest acquisition in the Lindsey era was convincing the Millers to cut ties with Corbin and bring in Snyder. If Ty were still the coach, it wouldn't matter what players Lindsey got. But yeah, he absolutely killed it this year with Rubio, Mitchell, Sefalosha and Udoh. Jazz DNA: defensive, team-first players with no egos. Hayward appears to be the last of the "me-first" guys the Jazz had.

As for Rubio, it was an incredible balancing act. Everyone thought Hayward was demanding Hill and Ingles be re-signed before he'd return. DL refused to give in to Hill's outrageous demands and actually traded for a player who would have been an even better fit for Gordon. Still worried about the offense, though.
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I get your point, but I'm not sure that both Rubio and Mitchell qualify as "team-first players with no egos". That label should be reserved to players who don't usually take shots that they can't make. There is a good chance that both Rubio and Mitchell will finish the season not only shooting bellow 40 percent from the field, but significantly bellow. In the case of Mitchell, his fans will probably argue that he is still young and can learn. The same argument will probably be made about Rubio, who is still somewhat young, despite being playing basketball since was in diapers. In Rubio's case, I hope that all that constant and incredible communication between him and Snyder, which has been reported, would serve to make him improve his shot selection in general. Nevertheless, he still needs to learn how to make lay-ups at a decent percentage, since he has being truly truly awful at that during his career.
 
Jack Strop said:
Biggest acquisition in the Lindsey era was convincing the Millers to cut ties with Corbin and bring in Snyder. If Ty were still the coach, it wouldn't matter what players Lindsey got. But yeah, he absolutely killed it this year with Rubio, Mitchell, Sefalosha and Udoh. Jazz DNA: defensive, team-first players with no egos. Hayward appears to be the last of the "me-first" guys the Jazz had.
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So much this.
 
ghsartin said:
I get your point, but I'm not sure that both Rubio and Mitchell qualify as "team-first players with no egos". That label should be reserved to players who don't usually take shots that they can't make. There is a good chance that both Rubio and Mitchell will finish the season not only shooting bellow 40 percent from the field, but significantly bellow. In the case of Mitchell, his fans will probably argue that he is still young and can learn. The same argument will probably be made about Rubio, who is still somewhat young, despite being playing basketball since was in diapers. In Rubio's case, I hope that all that constant and incredible communication between him and Snyder, which has been reported, would serve to make him improve his shot selection in general. Nevertheless, he still needs to learn how to make lay-ups at a decent percentage, since he has being truly truly awful at that during his career.
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The list of "selfish" players who play baseline to baseline defense is almost non-existent, , ,
 
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