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Fox Guarding the Henhouse: Mueller is completely discredited

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I have been saying this for months. Mueller is not honest, nor is Comey, and the fake Russian investigation is a desperate ploy that has failed.

So now we know Hillary's deal with the Russians on the sale of US Uranium properties to a company controlled by Vladimir Putin is the biggest scandal in American History.

This is indeed the Treasonable act, and Mueller and Comey, and the DNC were complicit is doing everything they've been trying to say Trump did.

I'll get back with the information.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/fusion-gps-clinton-campaign/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNdvXB4K07I
 
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I don't think we can actually say the Russians were "given" our uranium, since they are not allowed to export any uranium from the US. They can't physically get their hands on that uranium.

As for Facebook ads, and other Russian active measures, it represented an interference in our democratic process, which in turn represents an attack on our sovereignty as a nation. McCain was right early on in 2016 when he stated interference in our election, in our sovereignty as a nation was a type of act of war.
 
It's really telling that the Uranium deal, which was signed off on by 9 department heads, is being treated as a Hillary scandal by the usual suspects, with nary a mention of the 8 others. Not to mention that nothing about this 5 year old story is new. It is so obvious that the only reason it is circulating is to deflect and distract from Trump/Russia.

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Red said:
I don't think we can actually say the Russians were "given" our uranium, since they are not allowed to export any uranium from the US. They can't physically get their hands on that uranium.
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Not to mention the deal was signed off on by like a half dozen different agencies. Hannity likes to make it sound like Clinton loaded the uranium onto a dump truck at 3 in the morning and delivered it to the Russians herself.
 
Zombie said:
It's really telling that the Uranium deal, which was signed off on by 9 department heads, is being treated as a Hillary scandal by the usual suspects, with nary a mention of the 8 others. Not to mention that nothing about this 5 year old story is new. It is so obvious that the only reason it is circulating is to deflect and distract from Trump/Russia.

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You know who's winning from all this? The Kremlin.

I once took your basic bitch approach and have posted the same on here. There's a whole lot more to this though, and it's enough to completely shatter our already rotting faith and hope in our government.

Read the Gerasimov Doctrine (it's actually not doctrine).

http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/MilitaryReview/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20160228_art008.pdf

This is a self indictment by the then 2nd highest ranking Russian militarily commander. It's also a very basic publishing on modern political warfare and very vaguely a backhanded slap at American meddling. The Russians are playing both sides and American with politics is tearing itself apart over it. Both Hillary Clinton and Trump investigations. This is the classic divide and conquer tactic by using alternative means of modern warfare.

Think about the implications Trump is playing right now. We've known for well over a decade that Russians have been influencing our elections but nobody makes much of a deal out of it. Media outlets have even attempted to discredit or dismiss the Gerasimov doctrine, or explain it away. But now, an outsider gets into office and all of a sudden the establishment, the media and the popular culture all of a sudden start caring. Why? Who's pushing and backing this investigation? Why are they targeting and clearly witch hunting Trump? Is it because our bought and paid for congress has become so corrupt that they can't stand this outsider and your vote will never matter again?

Take that for what you will. It's a very convincing story to many and may create a whole lot more Trump "outsider" types along the Trump line. That may be a good thing or it may be so destabilizing that Russia wins the day.
 
franklin said:
You know who's winning from all this? The Kremlin.

I once took your basic bitch approach and have posted the same on here. There's a whole lot more to this though, and it's enough to completely shatter our already rotting faith and hope in our government.

Read the Gerasimov Doctrine (it's actually not doctrine).

http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/MilitaryReview/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20160228_art008.pdf

This is a self indictment by the then 2nd highest ranking Russian militarily commander. It's also a very basic publishing on modern political warfare and very vaguely a backhanded slap at American meddling. The Russians are playing both sides and American with politics is tearing itself apart over it. Both Hillary Clinton and Trump investigations. This is the classic divide and conquer tactic by using alternative means of modern warfare.

Think about the implications Trump is playing right now. We've known for well over a decade that Russians have been influencing our elections but nobody makes much of a deal out of it. Media outlets have even attempted to discredit or dismiss the Gerasimov doctrine, or explain it away. But now, an outsider gets into office and all of a sudden the establishment, the media and the popular culture all of a sudden start caring. Why? Who's pushing and backing this investigation? Why are they targeting and clearly witch hunting Trump? Is it because our bought and paid for congress has become so corrupt that they can't stand this outsider and your vote will never matter again?

Take that for what you will. It's a very convincing story to many and may create a whole lot more Trump "outsider" types along the Trump line. That may be a good thing or it may be so destabilizing that Russia wins the day.
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I'm not sure what your response had to to with my original post. Thanks for the insult though, don't bother responding as your posts will no longer be seen by me.

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How is letting a Russian company mine Uranium for the U.S. to keep treason?

Why do people present this issue in such an intellectually dishonest way? Russia got ZERO uranium from this deal. A Russian mining company got paid to mine Uranium in the U.S. for the U.S..

If you're gonna talk about it start by being honest or don't expect to change anyone's mind.

And in case anyone isn't up top date on their current events, Hillary Clinton lost the election. There is no process that could be used to put her in the White House. She isn't going to be the President, ever. Donald Trump is the President and the best we can hope for is that he steps down, gets impeached, or stops living. In any of those events the Vice President, Pence, becomes the President. End of story.

Hillary can be a criminal and Donald can be a criminal. It isn't either or. It also isn't a matter of if Hillary is a criminal and isn't in prison then Donald can be a criminal too and that's okay. Why? Because Donald is our President. He gets held to the standards of the President.

Hillary Clinton is a FORMER politician, former First Lady, Former Senator, former Secretary of State. She's done. She's not coming back. Ding-dong the witch is DEAD. Stop beating a dead horse and let's talk about what a pathetic failure the Trump Administration is.
 
Zombie said:
I'm not sure what your response had to to with my original post. Thanks for the insult though, don't bother responding as your posts will no longer be seen by me.

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He's getting really, really babe/rudder/borisish with his comments. "Thread topic? What thread topic. Let's talk about what I want to talk about. No? You must be a leftist, liberal, baby hater"
 
If anyone thinks that had Hillary been elected, like say if we used the popular vote to elect our President, that the Republican controlled House and Senate wouldn't have launched a half-dozen investigations into her activities, then you're dumb.

If Hillary had been elected we'd be talking about the possibility of impeaching her. But she wasn't elected. She lost. Most of us have moved on.
 
Bulletproof said:
And in case anyone isn't up top date on their current events, Hillary Clinton lost the election. There is no process that could be used to put her in the White House. She isn't going to be the President, ever. Donald Trump is the President and the best we can hope for is that he steps down, gets impeached, or stops living. In any of those events the Vice President, Pence, becomes the President. End of story.
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or he gets releected and has 8 years.

after that a democrat president will surely win!
as nnever has been a president of the ruling party been re-elected after 2 terms
 
Bulletproof said:
If anyone thinks that had Hillary been elected, like say if we used the popular vote to elect our President, that the Republican controlled House and Senate wouldn't have launched a half-dozen investigations into her activities, then you're dumb.

If Hillary had been elected we'd be talking about the possibility of impeaching her. But she wasn't elected. She lost. Most of us have moved on.
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She was under investigation. Then she lost and that more or less went away. Each side does all they can to discredit and kill off the other side so they can win the next election. 60% if not more of the governing we get at any level is solely to get re-elected or to keep their party in power. I wonder how much further we would be in our political system if elected officials actually did more governing for the people and less work to tear the other side down. I bet we could have had an education system that would be top 3 in the world, and a healthcare system that could be the same. But instead they continue with the incessant in-fighting and outright sabotage so nothing gets done. It is a travesty really. Load of **** on top of load of ****.
 
DutchJazzer said:
or he gets releected and has 8 years.

after that a democrat president will surely win!
as nnever has been a president of the ruling party been re-elected after 2 terms
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I think you are trying to say that if a given party is in control for 2 terms then that same party has not won the next election. That is not true. Reagan was in for 2 terms then Bush Sr. was elected. It has happened more than that in the past as well, with FDR serving 4 terms and I am sure others cases have happened as well where the ruling part was in office for more than 2 terms (not the same person of course, only FDR has done that then they changed the rules so that couldn't happen again).


Googled it real quick, the democratic party held it for 24 years:

Democrats: 24 years.

Thomas Jefferson (1801 - 1809)
James Madison (1809 - 1817)
James Monroe (1817 - 1825)
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Bulletproof said:
How is letting a Russian company mine Uranium for the U.S. to keep treason?

Why do people present this issue in such an intellectually dishonest way? Russia got ZERO uranium from this deal. A Russian mining company got paid to mine Uranium in the U.S. for the U.S..

If you're gonna talk about it start by being honest or don't expect to change anyone's mind.

And in case anyone isn't up top date on their current events, Hillary Clinton lost the election. There is no process that could be used to put her in the White House. She isn't going to be the President, ever. Donald Trump is the President and the best we can hope for is that he steps down, gets impeached, or stops living. In any of those events the Vice President, Pence, becomes the President. End of story.

Hillary can be a criminal and Donald can be a criminal. It isn't either or. It also isn't a matter of if Hillary is a criminal and isn't in prison then Donald can be a criminal too and that's okay. Why? Because Donald is our President. He gets held to the standards of the President.

Hillary Clinton is a FORMER politician, former First Lady, Former Senator, former Secretary of State. She's done. She's not coming back. Ding-dong the witch is DEAD. Stop beating a dead horse and let's talk about what a pathetic failure the Trump Administration is.
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I care about it because a) It exposes the well known corruption secrets that a partisan populace doesn't seem to care about unless it's the other team doing it, b) I don't like foreign entities influencing our elections like many have been clearly doing for a long time, c) The story line reads like a corruption ring that would make Watergate look like nothing.

Are those good enough reasons to want Hillary investigated more? Honestly, I don't even care that the Clinton's are playing the system. Good for them, capitalism rah rah rah. But that doesn't mean I have to like the system or ignore the gorilla in the room.
 
franklin said:
I care about it because a) It exposes the well known corruption secrets that a partisan populace doesn't seem to care about unless it's the other team doing it, b) I don't like foreign entities influencing our elections like many have been clearly doing for a long time, c) The story line reads like a corruption ring that would make Watergate look like nothing.

Are those good enough reasons to want Hillary investigated more? Honestly, I don't even care that the Clinton's are playing the system. Good for them, capitalism rah rah rah. But that doesn't mean I have to like the system or ignore the gorilla in the room.
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Do you think this case has anything to do with Donald's? Or that Donald is innocent because Hillary is quilty?

That's what my post was about.

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LogGrad98 said:
I think you are trying to say that if a given party is in control for 2 terms then that same party has not won the next election. That is not true. Reagan was in for 2 terms then Bush Sr. was elected. It has happened more than that in the past as well, with FDR serving 4 terms and I am sure others cases have happened as well where the ruling part was in office for more than 2 terms (not the same person of course, only FDR has done that then they changed the rules so that couldn't happen again).


Googled it real quick, the democratic party held it for 24 years:
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ooh well than fake news got me on that.

i could have sworn i heard it on some channel. like 2 terms of the same person, than his party did not win the next term.

sometimes i do not fact check. well then here is to trump2, cruz x2 and then trump jr x2!
 
Remember when repubs claimed that this was all a nothing Burger? They seem pretty scared now!!! Love it! Lock his *** up!
 
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