5.4 rebounds per game in 15 minutes per game. Nasty
2011 draft.....
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underKANTER
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he has a high motor and a long wingspan, will become a solid player in this league, but his *** will get pushed around all the time. his upside, his best case scenario is andris biedrins (10-10 player to go along with 2 blocks a game). so, i'd much rather take kanter. valanciunas might become a solid defender and a very solid role player, but his play won't change games that much. enes kanter on the other side, has very solid chances to become one of the best big men and average 20-10 night in, night out.
It's the motor/energy. He has the body of Biedrins with the nastiness of Noah. And before anyone says he is too skinny. He is 6'11 240 lbs, which is good size for a 19 year old. Has room to add more weight for sure,
margodydek
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He will be better than Biedrins. The big knock on Biedrins is that he doesn't care. He supposedly doesn't even like basketball and hated his coach.
I understand the high motor talk but haven't seen it in any of the videos I've watched. Maybe Im watching the wrong ones but nothing about him says "lottery pick"......even in this draft.
underKANTER
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he has a 7-6 wingspan. it's not like he would be that over-athletic or that he could jump very high.
margodydek
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Valanciunas = Biedrins/Boom Bitches
Kanter = Pau/KLove/Boozer
Give me Enes.
Kanter = Pau/KLove/Boozer
Give me Enes.
Well, unfortunately intangibles and hustle plays/rebounding don't make highlight films. I'm not saying we take this guy at 3. I'm just saying I would rather make an effort to trade up our 12th pick and take him than I would waste the third pick on Kanter.
I think it's 90% certain that Enes is the guy and the Jazz find a guard or wing later in the draft.
Biedrens is soft, slow and stiff, and he has almost no offense. He's an okay rebounder and avg. defender for his size/length, and that's about it.
Biedrens is soft, slow and stiff, and he has almost no offense. He's an okay rebounder and avg. defender for his size/length, and that's about it.
margodydek
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I put a lot of stock into players that can do things easily (or at least it appears easy). Kevin Durant scores easily, whereas Kobe no longer does. I like that Valanciunas has a motor and everything, but he's going to have to outwork everyone to succeed. Kanter on the other hand makes things look effortless, and I can easily see him dominate the boards. Apparently Coach Cal would have to take him out of practice to be able to show the other guys how to rebound, because Kanter was dominating everyone.
We all saw what a player like Perkins did for the Thunder and what Chandler has done for Dallas. This is the kind of player we will need to ever be a serious contender. Him or Biyombo.
I don't expect anyone to agree with me. He certainly isn't a sexy pick like Kanter is with his offensive polish, but I think he will be a sure thing as a defensive anchor.
underKANTER
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i posted this on the other thread, just to show that some might underrate kanter.
-nazr mohamed played against kanter one-on-one, and the teammates said, he dominated him. nazr is quite a solid defensive big.
-patrick patterson played against kanter and said, he would be on the same level as demarcus cousins.
-all his teammates talk that they can't guard him and that is also realy difficult to score against him. this means, he can't be that bad of a defender.
-harellson said that a mix of the three other best bigs in the ncaa produces an enes kanter. he would be agile and quick, he can score from inside-out and that he is strong and though. he said, he never has to play against a player of kanter's caliber in the ncaa and that he would pick him as the first pick most likely.
-if he played this year, he would be the obvious first pick in this draft!
-this guy is still 18 years old and his realistic case is a 19-9 player with an slightly above average defense. but the sky is still the limit. he has the body, the skillset, the work-ethic and the fundamentals along with his iq which realy make it almost impossible for him to not become one of the best big men in the league. players like him don't come along very often. worst case is an 15-8 player and the best case is a 23 - 12 player.
-nazr mohamed played against kanter one-on-one, and the teammates said, he dominated him. nazr is quite a solid defensive big.
-patrick patterson played against kanter and said, he would be on the same level as demarcus cousins.
-all his teammates talk that they can't guard him and that is also realy difficult to score against him. this means, he can't be that bad of a defender.
-harellson said that a mix of the three other best bigs in the ncaa produces an enes kanter. he would be agile and quick, he can score from inside-out and that he is strong and though. he said, he never has to play against a player of kanter's caliber in the ncaa and that he would pick him as the first pick most likely.
-if he played this year, he would be the obvious first pick in this draft!
-this guy is still 18 years old and his realistic case is a 19-9 player with an slightly above average defense. but the sky is still the limit. he has the body, the skillset, the work-ethic and the fundamentals along with his iq which realy make it almost impossible for him to not become one of the best big men in the league. players like him don't come along very often. worst case is an 15-8 player and the best case is a 23 - 12 player.
Having seen Demarcus Cousins up close in NBA competition, I'm almost sold on Kanter having a similar potential impact and better mobility. If Kanter can measure 6'11" in shoes, I think it's close to a no-brainer. With Jefferson and Favors, Kanter would give the Jazz one of the best front-court rotations in the league.
Vallanciunas draws comparisons to a young Pau Gasol, but he needs to grow another couple of inches and continue to develop his game. I think I'd consider Montiejunas about level with Valanciunas in terms of potential right now.
No way, his teammates (who most likely like him and are friends) are hyping him up? No ********** way.
The Thriller
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Kanter dominated Nazr?
The same "solid defensive big" who has a career average of .7 blocks per game?
Oh man, can you say championship?
If he can dominate Nazr, then he's going to be a HOF player... At least!
My mom thinks I'm a pretty good basketball player too.
Except they are two completely different players. The point in getting Jonas isn't that he is going to evolve into an All-Star. Is that he will come in, work his *** off, rebound, play defense, and finish around the rim. I don't want him being Pau Gasol, I want him to be Noah, but longer and more athletic.