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Ron Mexico said:
Yeah, I agree that they should not trade too much for him. I also think he is a huge risk, but I am okay with taking some risks if there is a good reward. I think Snyder would love a playmaking shot creating 4. He could be a great fit with Gobert if he can get healthy and reach some of his potential. Or even if he plays as well as he did last year would be huge on our team.

People are locked onto him here because he is a potential all-star level player that is maybe attainable due to the risk. All-star level players are hard to trade for. I am also sure that many have followed his career more than other players due to his religion.
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It’s just weird to me. If I were to suggest trading for Gallinari for expiring people would lose their **** but he has injury risks a shorter contract and is actually a more efficient scorer... there is an age gap and we know more of what he is... but at least we aren’t giving up all our assets to get him ya know.

If you pay too much for a high risk endeavor you take all the upside out of the deal.
 
Gallinari would be good for us if he could stay healthy. Big if, but he is a great fit.

My favorite new concept is going after Orlando's first rounder by taking Biyombo and/or Fournier. If we somehow got a Porter, we would care less about paying Biyombo his $17 per year the next couple years. This draft is loaded with quality bigs. Great time to get high into the lottery.

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Has anyone mentioned Jerami Grant from OKC? He's a UFA this summer. His stats aren't great but he looks like a player.

"T.J. McConnell was preparing for Tuesday’s game against the Magic when his phone rang. Jerami Grant was calling to let McConnell know he had been traded to the Thunder.

“I was really sad,” McConnell said. “I know a lot of people around here are sad because Jerami was like the favorite guy in the locker room. Everyone loved him.”


Wrapping up Jerami Grant’s season
As a basketball player Grant has a lot of work to do. He doesn’t have any dribble drive moves in isolation, and his defense on the perimeter can be rough to watch at times. What’s important is that all the tools are there for the perfect Russell Westbrook running mate.

MORE FROM THUNDEROUS INTENTIONS
The earth-shaking dunks are fun and the opponent-starts-crying blocks are great, but there’s more to Jerami Grant then just those plays. He plays with high energy whenever he touches the court. He isn’t afraid to put his body out on the line for his teammates. He can play up to four positions at any given time. But most importantly, he was one of the few OKC Thunder players who stepped up in the playoffs.

Grant showed improvement both in his game and his physical appearance during the season, a sign of a player who truly cares about his craft. My guess is he uses this offseason to fully develop his newfound skills/discover talents he may not have known he possessed.

Don’t expect earth-shattering numbers from Jerami Grant next season. But don’t be surprised when his name gets talked around a lot more NBA circles come 2018.


http://www.nba.com/thunder/video/highlights-grant-170523
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
It’s just weird to me. If I were to suggest trading for Gallinari for expiring people would lose their **** but he has injury risks a shorter contract and is actually a more efficient scorer... there is an age gap and we know more of what he is... but at least we aren’t giving up all our assets to get him ya know.

If you pay too much for a high risk endeavor you take all the upside out of the deal.
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Yeah, there is a big difference between pairing Mitchell(22), Gobert (25) with a 22 year old PF with upside than a 29 year old player on the decline. A shorter contract is not necessarily better but Gallinari does not have a shorter contract either.
 
**** ****ing Hayward and what he did to us but I wonder what Ainge is thinking seeing two other wings tearing it up. Hayward going to play the 4 next year? SOB would sell his own kid down the river if it benefited him (he actually kinda did). Not sure how expendable he sees him, especially when he’s making $30M coming off an injury at a position occupied by two other guys contributing to them being at the top of their conference.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y86kneq6
 
infection said:
**** ****ing Hayward and what he did to us but I wonder what Ainge is thinking seeing two other wings tearing it up. Hayward going to play the 4 next year? SOB would sell his own kid down the river if it benefited him (he actually kinda did). Not sure how expendable he sees him, especially when he’s making $30M coming off an injury at a position occupied by two other guys contributing to them being at the top of their conference.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y86kneq6
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I would actually love being the third team in a Hayward trade that sends Hayward to NO or some other place besides here or Boston.
 
LoPo said:
Gallinari would be good for us if he could stay healthy. Big if, but he is a great fit.

My favorite new concept is going after Orlando's first rounder by taking Biyombo and/or Fournier. If we somehow got a Porter, we would care less about paying Biyombo his $17 per year the next couple years. This draft is loaded with quality bigs. Great time to get high into the lottery.

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Stop it
 
Ron Mexico said:
I would actually love being the third team in a Hayward trade that sends Hayward to NO or some other place besides here or Boston.
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I’d like that, too. But, really, if he’s a sacrificial pawn, I think it’d be prudent to look at things from a basketball angle and what makes the team better. Also would feel good for him to return from injury and the the bitch to a guy who just finished his rookie year. He can play Batgirl to Donovan’s Batman. And he can be stuck in Utah making less money.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Yeah, there is a big difference between pairing Mitchell(22), Gobert (25) with a 22 year old PF with upside than a 29 year old player on the decline. A shorter contract is not necessarily better but Gallinari does not have a shorter contract either.
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Look up the dictionary under "injury prone" and you'll see Gallo's picture. He is 100% reliably injury prone Good player when he's ok
 
Fournier's contract is good for his production. Orlando, even with Biyombo, won't be anywhere near the luxury tax even with a maxed out Gordon next year. There's no incentive for Orlando to give up assets they really need, draft picks, to dump Biyombo's 2 years.
 
To anybody still going on about Gallinari, huddle up in front of me. Now look into this device please.

*Puts dark sunglasses on*
 
Is there a trade you proposed that doesn't involve taking on bad contracts?
 
LoPo said:
More smoke about what could impact potential deals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ding-financial-crunch/?utm_term=.c94cd255418f

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All the more reason for the Jazz to NOT **** up their own cap situation bailing another team out unless they get a windfall for their troubles. I’d rather keep our own guys and punt until 2019 rather than be a cap dump. Jazz aren’t getting closer to adding a 3rd star with ANY of the trades that have been suggested so far. Late draft picks are not worth being out of the market until after Gobert’s contract is up. If they can trade guys for positive assets without taking back long term salary? Great. Do that. Anything short of adding a star player needs to include maintaining maximum cap flexibility for the next two offseasons.
 
Ellis - “Now that the cap isn’t going to grow – it’s essentially going to be flat – you’re going to see financially-based trades. So teams that have flexibility in their cap are going to be in great position to take advantage.”

If its not to our advantage, we wont do it. Its that simple. But we are one of those teams with flexibility.

I would absolutely love to sign a "3rd star" in 2019. But you know what, so is half the league. We arent a free agent star destination. Half the league is in the luxury for 2018-19. Half. If we can take advantage of that before the deadline, we would be brilliant. We would be opportunistic.

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