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Where Does Hood End Up?

Where Does Hood End Up?

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LoPo said:
I think we need to pull the bandaid now. We are heading for a catastrophic path to the deadline.

Trade JoeJ and Hood to Cleveland for Frye, Osman and their pick (not the Brooklyn pick). Yes, we only get Osman and a late first for Hood but we move on.

Then trade Favors and Burks to Atlanta for expirings.

Just clean house, pick up Osman, get a late 1st, and open up cap room for summer we can play with.

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This is just terrible. For one, Hood doesn't move the needle for the Cavs. They need defense all around but especially on the back end. They have shooters, they have creators, they have PNR players.

Secondly, no reason for Atlanta to do that. Seriously taking Burks contract for Favors bird rights? They can use their cap space for a much better salary dump if desired.

Third, seems like probably the worst case scenario package for the Jazz for Favors and Hood no? Why do we need cap room for the summer to play with? To offer glass knees Jabari a max contract?
 
I may be on an island here but I think there's a lot more value in KEEPING Hood than others may think. Let's say between Hood and Dante you get them signed for total 20-25 million, you could still strike in 2019 FA assuming Jazz don't take any guaranteed 2019 money on via trade or 2018 FA.
 
I think Hood is going to sign an offer sheet from another team that is larger than most people think this offseason. I don't think he's worth to the Jazz nearly what he's going to get paid.
 
MDAV

#1 - if you don't think Cleveland would want Rodney, you dont know basketball. He is an improvement over most of their bench and a guy they can re-sign should LBJ leave.

#2 - Atlanta is on record saying they would trade expirings for a 2nd rounder and value. So we add our 2nd.

#3 - if you don't understand how cap space can help, poor you.

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Roy_McAvoy said:
I think Hood is going to sign an offer sheet from another team that is larger than most people think this offseason. I don't think he's worth to the Jazz nearly what he's going to get paid.
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I think completely opposite. Very few teams with space and lots of wing FAs
 
LoPo said:
MDAV

#1 - if you don't think Cleveland would want Rodney, you dont know basketball. He is an improvement over most of their bench and a guy they can re-sign should LBJ leave.

#2 - Atlanta is on record saying they would trade expirings for a 2nd rounder and value. So we add our 2nd.

#3 - if you don't understand how cap space can help, poor you.

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Somebody doesn't watch the Cavs.

So they're taking on 11 million next year for Favors bird rights and a 2nd?

Oh I'm fully aware of how cap space works. You just have no plan of what to do with that cap space that's the problem. Your idea literally the other day was to DUMP Burks (bad salary) just to take ON bad salary.
 
So you are saying that Hood doesn't help the Cavs? Hell, he probably starts for them. JR has been terrible.

Yes, they take on Burks because the Hawks want Favors and a 2nd. Burks has lost Quin's confidence not everybody else's too. He is low risk high reward for a team that isnt a free agent hot spot.

I suggested we dump Burks, take back a worse salary AND pick up an asset. You left out that convenient nugget of course.

We either clear space without using future assets OR take a bad contract to get a good asset.

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Looking at our cap projections... I am not sure if we really want to get into FA this year, but if we do... moving Rodney allows for that to happen. I know his cap hold is low, but the second he signs an offer sheet that is his new cap hold.

If we move Rodney without long-term money we can actually get $20-25M in space to work with by moving Ricky or AB for 5-7M less in salary and waiving all the unguaranteed guys. But what it really does is makes us taking on salary to get a young player or draft pick possible. Signing Rod and either taking on salary or using the full MLE would put us as a tax team or very close to it.

I still think 2019 makes more sense to be FA players, but if you can get a first for Rod and sign Will Barton or someone like that with the MLE I don't think we are worse off... I think Rod gets $15-20M a year and is no longer a good value and likely in over his head in the role we'd have for him.

Moving Hood creates some good options for us... get value for him and move forward.
 
Sure wish the Jazz didn't have Rubio and had back OKC's 1st round pick. They'd be armed right now to be able to make a great deal. A lot of teams are seeking additional first round picks and there's not many to be had.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Looking at our cap projections... I am not sure if we really want to get into FA this year, but if we do... moving Rodney allows for that to happen. I know his cap hold is low, but the second he signs an offer sheet that is his new cap hold.

If we move Rodney without long-term money we can actually get $20-25M in space to work with by moving Ricky or AB for 5-7M less in salary and waiving all the unguaranteed guys. But what it really does is makes us taking on salary to get a young player or draft pick possible. Signing Rod and either taking on salary or using the full MLE would put us as a tax team or very close to it.

I still think 2019 makes more sense to be FA players, but if you can get a first for Rod and sign Will Barton or someone like that with the MLE I don't think we are worse off... I think Rod gets $15-20M a year and is no longer a good value and likely in over his head in the role we'd have for him.

Moving Hood creates some good options for us... get value for him and move forward.
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2019 is definitely the year to hit FA. Opening up 2018 FA space makes no sense when 2019 looks to be wide open for the Jazz.
 
Roy_McAvoy said:
Sure wish the Jazz didn't have Rubio and had back OKC's 1st round pick. They'd be armed right now to be able to make a great deal. A lot of teams are seeking additional first round picks and there's not many to be had.
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It hurts on so many levels. I understand why we did it obviously but yeah... cap flexibility and that pick would have been great.

I wonder how hard Gordon sold the get Rubio and I’ll come back narrative. We should have just said we will find someone once we get you re-signed but that would have given Gordon something to point to and say that is why I am leaving.
 
MDAV28 said:
2019 is definitely the year to hit FA. Opening up 2018 FA space makes no sense when 2019 looks to be wide open for the Jazz.
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Agree for the most part. I think we operate over the cap and use our MLE and bi annual exception if there are bargains available. If we re-sign Hood we wouldn’t do that as it would close some space in 2019 and put us close to the tax this year.

I think there will be some bargains in that salary range. 9M
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Agree for the most part. I think we operate over the cap and use our MLE and bi annual exception if there are bargains available. If we re-sign Hood we wouldn’t do that as it would close some space in 2019 and put us close to the tax this year.

I think there will be some bargains in that salary range. 9M
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I think it's possible the Exum/Hood combination could be resigned for 20M-25M total which wouldn't close all that much space on 2019 (still a max spot available) considering how the only players currently under contract are Gobert, Ingles, Mitchell and Bradley (if his option is picked up).

If Rod can fetch a 1st rounder and both sides are moving on, no problem with that. Although, I wouldn't give Rod up to dump a Rubio or Burks though, don't think that offers the same value.
 
MDAV28 said:
I think it's possible the Exum/Hood combination could be resigned for 20M-25M total which wouldn't close all that much space on 2019 (still a max spot available) considering how the only players currently under contract are Gobert, Ingles, Mitchell and Bradley (if his option is picked up).

If Rod can fetch a 1st rounder and both sides are moving on, no problem with that. Although, I wouldn't give Rod up to dump a Rubio or Burks though, don't think that offers the same value.
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I agree on all fronts. Rodney would affect our 2019 space if we also used our exceptions in 2018 FA. I think having options in both FA periods available to find bargains would be prudent in our case... not putting all FA eggs into one basket.

I would try and move Rubio for expirings without attaching assets, but if that is not an option I'd try and get Dudley from Phoenix or Thomas (or Ron Baker) with their expirings for him... Take that 15 down to 7-10M and then you are within striking distance of offering a max deal if Orlando or Milwaukee really decide they won't go to the max for Parker or Gordon.
 
MDAV28 said:
2019 is definitely the year to hit FA. Opening up 2018 FA space makes no sense when 2019 looks to be wide open for the Jazz.
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I understand your logic, but you are forgetting something. Half of the NBA is in the luxury for 2018-19. So half of the NBA can't even buy. We have two young franchise cornerstones (Mitchell and Gobert) - a 2nd or 3rd tier player might be intrigued by joining. And since many don't have money to spend, we might get a good player for cheaper than when everybody overspends in 2019. So if we have money in 2018 (which we could), we would stand a better chance of buying a player than we would when almost all of the league has money in 2019.

When I think of possible 2018 targets, I'm thinking of guys like:

Avery Bradley
Mirotic (if his option is somehow declined)
Tyreke Evans
Kyle Anderson
Will Barton
JJ Reddick
Patrick McCaw
Ilyasova
Herzonja

And of course we have the opportunity to take a contract if we wanted. If Portland dumps a guy like Harkless and we actually wanted him, we could. This summer will be chaos since so many teams are staring down the luxury tax. Some, like Portland and Washington, will be looking at repeat offender if they don't make a move.
 
LoPo said:
Interesting article. http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-things-are-getting-interesting-on-the-nba-trade-front/

Orlando wants to dump.

Parker might be available.

Cavs might deal vets.



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I would be shocked of kwahi got moved but jazz should make multiple attempts at him.

Jazz should make some offers to magic for Gordon. He is a dream fit. They should also go after Fournier if it's reasonable.

Jazz are in a decent position to be really aggressive. We have some things a few teams seem to want and need to leverage that into a great deal. I think draft picks aren't really getting moved much but players will be.

This might be the busiest trade deadline for the jazz and it should be.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I would be shocked of kwahi got moved but jazz should make multiple attempts at him.

Jazz are in a decent position to be really aggressive. We have some things a few teams seem to want and need to leverage that into a great deal. I think draft picks aren't really getting moved much but players will be.

This might be the busiest trade deadline for the jazz and it should be.
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I almost just started a Kawhi thread but I figured the whole forum would block me. But seriously, why not try for Kawhi? If he is truly unhappy, he only has one more guaranteed year left on his deal. He could simply walk from San Antonio in 18 months. And good God, what a great fit he would be with Gobert and Mitchell.

What would the first offer be?

Hood, Bradley, Favors, our 2018 unprotected 1st, our 2020 unprotected 1st and a couple 2nd rounders
 
Sixers interested in Hood? http://www.basketballinsiders.com/n...de-targets-to-get-the-sixers-to-the-playoffs/ I acknowledge that the article is 3 days old but still relevant. Sorry if it has already been posted...

Let’s start with Hood. Before the rise of Donovan Mitchell this season, Hood looked to be in a position to assume the role as the dominant scorer on the Utah Jazz following Gordon Hayward’s departure. At just 25 years old and in the final year of his rookie contract, Hood may not be worth the price tag for Utah this summer considering their find with Mitchell.

Should the Jazz actually move on from Hood, it’s unclear what they would ask for in return at this point. Yes, Hood his an impending free agent, which could diminish his value. But the team trading for him would assume his Bird Rights, therefore giving them a better shot at retaining him this summer should they choose to do so.

The best part about his potential fit in Philadelphia is that he fits the timeline of the rebuild while also addressing a need in the present. Being just 25, Hood fits alongside the core of Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, Dario Saric and Robert Covington as a young player. If the Sixers were to miss out on whoever they were planning to target with their financial flexibility this summer, Hood would still be there to plug in for years with a contract extension.

Shooting 38 percent from beyond the arc this season, and displaying the track record of being able to fill up the score sheet, Hood could become the go-to-scorer for Philadelphia when Embiid isn’t on the court, or late in games when they need to stop an opposing team’s run.

While he appears to at least be on the table as of now, Hood is certainly worth checking in on from the Sixers’ standpoint.
 
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