Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

[David Stern]

I could see the Jazz sliding into this one with Favors to NOP and Mirotic heading here. New Orleans gets an actual expiring, Niko gets a home he wants.

That trade would make way too much sense.

 

[MDAV28]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8wlkys9

Why not step in?

Favors to NO
Mirotic to Utah
Asik to Chicago

We can include a second rounder to either team (or both). Win-win-win.

Because New Orleans doesn't want that.

 

[infection]

Because New Orleans doesn't want that.

Sounds like they want expiring deals. If Boogie goes down, who do you want next to AD for the rest of the year?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

...as long as he doesn't value long-term stability in his job.

True. If he got waived this year he probably gets paid less. There is significantly more money available in 2019 UFA I believe.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8wlkys9

Why not step in?

Favors to NO
Mirotic to Utah
Asik to Chicago

We can include a second rounder to either team (or both). Win-win-win.

I think they want shooting, but if they just want another good player then sure. We could add in a Jerebko for Ajinca to help facilitate a little.

 

[MDAV28]

I could see the Jazz sliding into this one with Favors to NOP and Mirotic heading here. New Orleans gets an actual expiring, Niko gets a home he wants.

There's no way for a second I would think New Orleans would give up a 1st for a couple months of Mirotic or Favors and to get of Asik. Asik could be stretched pretty easily.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

True. If he got waived this year he probably gets paid less. There is significantly more money available in 2019 UFA I believe.

Cap goes up and many more expiring contracts... there are almost none this year.

 

[stitches]

Before the season started almost no one thought they would pick up his option... then he balled out for a month. He wants that money and to hit FA when more teams have space.

Interesting.

The thing is that the player has to assume the team will play this perfectly. As in - if he deserves his salary or more - they will pick the option, if he doesn't they will decline. Thus, Mirotic only has downside to NOP having the option to pick up his second year. Thus, he wants the year guaranteed.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sounds like they want expiring deals. If Boogie goes down, who do you want next to AD for the rest of the year?

New Orleans probably wants the flexibility with Mirotic, but if he isnt willing to be flexible, then yeah, maybe.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There's no way for a second I would think New Orleans would give up a 1st for a couple months of Mirotic or Favors and to get of Asik. Asik could be stretched pretty easily.

I would think they'd try to sneak Hill into the deal if possible because Asik's guaranteed money of 15M can be stretched over 5 years.

 

[radiohegel]

There's no way for a second I would think New Orleans would give up a 1st for a couple months of Mirotic or Favors and to get of Asik. Asik could be stretched pretty easily.

My first instinct is to agree, but I think they're kind of in a similar place the Jazz were last summer, but subbing out Hayward for AD. They probably feel like they really have to make the playoffs this year if they are going to keep him interested in staying around.

 

[infection]

There's no way for a second I would think New Orleans would give up a 1st for a couple months of Mirotic or Favors and to get of Asik. Asik could be stretched pretty easily.

So riddle me this, why isn't NO just having Chicago pick up his option and invalidate his say-so in the deal?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The thing is that the player has to assume the team will play this perfectly. As in - if he deserves his salary or more - they will pick the option, if he doesn't they will decline. Thus, Mirotic only has downside to NOP having the option to pick up his second year. Thus, he wants the year guaranteed.

Right or if he gets hurt they have insurance. This is why I thought there was value in him being able to block trades... Many of the teams that wanted him also want salary relief.

 

[David Stern]

I'm wondering if there's someone other than Favors that New Orleans would want. Maybe Burks and Jerebko?

 

[MDAV28]

So riddle me this, why isn't NO just having Chicago pick up his option and invalidate his say-so in the deal?

Because options are of course very valuable for whoever holds them. What if Mirotic gets hurt? What if he doesn't mesh well with the team? What if they have a better way to use their money? What if they decide to pick up everything and head in another direction? Flexibility is important and New Orleans may be leaning without that flexibility.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This seems obvious for the Jazz...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So riddle me this, why isn't NO just having Chicago pick up his option and invalidate his say-so in the deal?

If he gets hurt they are stuck with his salary and next year if they bring Boogie back then he is a backup.

NO is operating under short term principles... last year they waived Omri Casspi when they could have kept him on the books because he was out for a few weeks... they picked up some 10 day guys who never helped.

They should fire their GM today and get someone that isn't fearful of losing his job. They need to be going the other way.

 

[MDAV28]

My first instinct is to agree, but I think they're kind of in a similar place the Jazz were last summer, but subbing out Hayward for AD. They probably feel like they really have to make the playoffs this year if they are going to keep him interested in staying around.

There's probably a better use of a first-round pick if that's the case. I mean hell send them Rodney Hood for their first.

 

[MDAV28]

This seems obvious for the Jazz...

There is no way they are shopping their first just for dumping Asik. I don't believe that.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

There is no way they are shopping their first just for dumping Asik. I don't believe that.

It's happened before


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