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This.

Wes clearly hasn't watched enough basketball this year to know enough to talk.

Nuggets had just beaten OKC and Golden States in a row. They've done it without Millsap. 3 players who score something like 80% of their points are younger than 23 years old (Jokic, Harris and Murray). All of their starters (including Millsap) can all shoot lights out from 3s. They are improving on defense. Jokic is a pass first Center that is unselfish and can shoot 3s. Harris is a defensive guard who can knock down 3s and score inside. Murray is having an amazing breakout year this year. The future of that team is so bright it's blinding.

Edit: OH and BTW, they've already beaten the Warriors x2 this season. Considering how young they are it's pretty amazing.

So Jokic’s 34.5% from 3 is lights out?
Even Murray’s 38.2%?


Lol okay. They’re a whopping 13th in the league as a team in 3 point percentage!

Get a clue. Ability and results are two completely different things. Carmelo is a prime example of that.
 
#1 - most of the league has ample 2019 cap space
#2 - are we a major free agent destination? I forget...
#3 - Aaron Gordon or Parker is a bigger acquisition than we ever have had in free agency

So you trade for the right to get the fantastic asset rather than hope really, really hard.

Most of the league certainly does not have 2019 cap space.
 
I'm not sure I like this deal, but it may have had to be done. I think the Jazz had overtures of having to let Hood walk anyway while he had his chance to do his thing to earn his money this summer, and he didn't let it happen. Jazz and other teams knew Hood was going to have to leave getting 75 cents on the dollar due to recent events. The fact that it was the Cavaliers also spins a bad taste about it.
 
Indiana, Kings, Clippers, Bulls, Lakers, Mavericks, Nets, Jazz, Suns, Magic, Hawks, Sixers, New York. And this is speaking in February of 2018 before any FA contracts have been signed for THIS year. Tell me who is most appealing on that list.

Just because a team has a free agent they want to keep doesn't mean they keep them. You're forgetting teams like Houston, the Bucks and so many more that have space. If they use that space on their free agent, then so be it. Doesn't mean they don't have space.

You are only considering the teams that have absolute space right now but you aren't counting everybody. If you count everybody, it's like 20 teams.
 
I don't want to fight with you elan. I want the best for the Jazz. I don't think we need Burks and I question how Favors fits long term. I would rather trade those two and shoot high than just sit on our hands. If we stay put, I will be okay. I just think there are more options in the next 45 minutes.
 
Crowder and Rose (even just to cut him) both qualify as guys that weren’t on the radar. Interested to see if there’s any other moves made today.

Still think that Burks needs to head out for the benefit of both sides
 
Trade clean up: Cavs sent Kings $2.1M in cash, Jazz sent Kings $1.1M cash & Cavs agreed to second-round swap rights with Utah in 2024. Cavs also got rights to Arturas Gudaitis from Sac & traded rights to Dimitrios Agravanis.
 
We got swap rights for Clevelands second round pick in 2024... now this is a home run.
 
Just because a team has a free agent they want to keep doesn't mean they keep them. You're forgetting teams like Houston, the Bucks and so many more that have space. If they use that space on their free agent, then so be it. Doesn't mean they don't have space.

You are only considering the teams that have absolute space right now but you aren't counting everybody. If you count everybody, it's like 20 teams.

This just absolutely isn't true. Houston has $88 million on the Books for 2019, not counting non-guaranteed or any cap holds.
 
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