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Red said:
Lol.....

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/07/med...text-message-clinton-investigation/index.html
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Truth is having a rough go of it these days.

One of the things that was hardest for me in this media-era was accepting the results of Trump's physical. There's a doctor, a man of science, on a stage and telling me things that feel patently unbelievable: that there's a elderly obese man who ends up in bed with a cheese burger so often that I've often wondered if he's a burger-sexual, but he has a perfectly healthy heart. That someone with obvious mental acuity issues passed a test with a perfect score that i'm pretty sure I would miss a few points on if I took it cold today. It just doesn't feel real.

I found myself dismissing a doctor, in his official capacity as a government official, as fundamentally non-credible.

And that means the Russians have won: there is no objective truth. The populace does not share the same reality. And that means we are no longer a nation.
 
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Sirkickyass said:
Babe: I read your post but I don't have any idea how to respond to it. The whole thing seems like word salad to me that is meandering wildly from subject to subject. It is honestly easier for me to decode Russian newspapers.
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If it were typed on a legal brief related to defending some criminal, I'm sure you'd have the energy to dissect it and tear it apart.... well.... at $500/hr.... who wouldn't.

Let me try to simplify it. Russia/Russians have evolved somewhat. They have some "freedom" perhaps. Putin and others might be called "nationalists" rationally trying to exploit obvious political or economic situations to their own advantage, building up their position on the global stage. Keeping the Crimea might be seen in that light. Running off Jon Huntsman Jr.'s business operation could be seen in that light. Putin telling various oligarchs/business tycoons they won't be very welcome in Russia if they are actually working to minimize Russia's power/influence or economic competitiveness could be seen in that light.

In a sense, Putin was Russia's Trump in the first place. Maybe he had a slogan like "Make Russia Great Again" in his political propaganda.

Russian media have published quite a lot of material critical of what they see as America's Bolshevik revolution while American Marxist ideologues (read Obama, Hillary, Ayers etc) and the extreme leftists in the Dem Party continue their attack on Trump.

And, oh, they have been re-writing Russian history along the lines that western interests promoted and helped the Bosheviks and subjected Russia to the horrors of communism.....

yah, so pretty much you don't need to be surprised much if their Press has parallels with conservatives or anti-communists in the United States.

But being Russians, I'm pretty sure they'll bribe Hillary and Bill or anyone else to get some good Uranium resources for their very competitive nuclear power plant company Rossatom.

Like oligarchs worldwide, they intend to thrive on their own terms.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Babe: I read your post but I don't have any idea how to respond to it. The whole thing seems like word salad to me that is meandering wildly from subject to subject. It is honestly easier for me to decode Russian newspapers.
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If it were typed on a legal brief related to defending some criminal, I'm sure you'd have the energy to dissect it and tear it apart.... well.... at $500/hr.... who wouldn't.

Let me try to simplify it. Russia/Russians have evolved somewhat. They have some "freedom" perhaps. Putin and others might be called "nationalists" rationally trying to exploit obvious political or economic situations to their own advantage, building up their position on the global stage. Keeping the Crimea might be seen in that light. Running off Jon Huntsman Jr.'s business operation could be seen in that light. Putin telling various oligarchs/business tycoons they won't be very welcome in Russia if they are actually working to minimize Russia's power/influence or economic competitiveness could be seen in that light.

In a sense, Putin was Russia's Trump in the first place. Maybe he had a slogan like "Make Russia Great Again" in his political propaganda.

Russian media have published quite a lot of material critical of what they see as America's Bolshevik revolution while American Marxist ideologues (read Obama, Hillary, Ayers etc) and the extreme leftists in the Dem Party continue their attack on Trump.

And, oh, they have been re-writing Russian history along the lines that western interests promoted and helped the Bosheviks and subjected Russia to the horrors of communism.....

yah, so pretty much you don't need to be surprised much if their Press has parallels with conservatives or anti-communists in the United States.

But being Russians, I'm pretty sure they'll bribe Hillary and Bill or anyone else


to get some good Uranium resources for their very competitive nuclear power plant company Rossatom.

Like oligarchs worldwide, they intend to thrive on their own terms.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Truth is having a rough go of it these days.

One of the things that was hardest for me in this media-era was accepting the results of Trump's physical. There's a doctor, a man of science, on a stage and telling me things that feel patently unbelievable: that there's a elderly obese man who ends up in bed with a cheese burger so often that I've often wondered if he's a burger-sexual, but he has a perfectly healthy heart. That someone with obvious mental acuity issues passed a test with a perfect score that i'm pretty sure I would miss a few points on if I took it cold today. It just doesn't feel real.

I found myself dismissing a doctor, in his official capacity as a government official, as fundamentally non-credible.

And that means the Russians have won: there is no objective truth. The populace does not share the same reality. And that means we are no longer a nation.
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you are not alone in this despair.

it is true we are no longer a nation that accepts wholesale falsehoods propagandized through a mass media culture that is wholly owned and dedicated to the oligarchic dictates of "American elites".

It may be somewhat true that "Russian elites" are fundamentally no better than ours, but I would assert that the Russian populace rejected the Pravda and TASS media of a generation ago, and does not buy their current media wholesale either. You might say, even, that Americans are waking up to and rejecting the obvious falsehoods promoted by our media interests.

however, you are wrong to see this in a despairing light. I don't know anything about Trump's health, but I think the doctor is more reasonable than you are. You don't notice Trump's activity and clarity of thought. He's a dynamo, and people around him can hardly keep up with his expectations. I think it's likely that he is healthy, and our "Press" reports are likely intellectually committed to the narrative you've followed, looking for and exaggerating every line of fact or fancy they can imagine which would support it.

An America with actual citizen interest in our national affairs is a healthy America.
 
Man the US interferes in more elections and governments around the world than anyone, RUSSIA lmao, Hillary and Obama sold them uranium rights on USA property and pocketed millions... but but Russia hacked the election to put trump in power lmao


How to control other countries,

1) make sure only corrupted people get elected so we can control them by proxy
2) if that doesn't work force them to accept loans their country can never repay
3) if that doesn't work kill them

That's our real foreign policy
 
rare144 said:
Man the US interferes in more elections and governments around the world than anyone, RUSSIA lmao, Hillary and Obama sold them uranium rights on USA property and pocketed millions... but but Russia hacked the election to put trump in power lmao
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You just get done consuming some right-wing propaganda and now you're barfing it back up on us?

What is your point?
 
pulease "just got reading" I don't read any news sites because it's all propaganda, every single one even Fox News

The CIA had/has like 60,000 AP people on payroll back in the 60's, 70s that's facts jack
 
rare144 said:
pulease "just got reading" I don't read any news sites because it's all propaganda, every single one even Fox News

The CIA had/has like 60,000 AP people on payroll back in the 60's, 70s that's facts jack
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No wonder the media is so conservative then, since the CIA is overwhelmingly conservative individuals.

Where do you get your news/information from then?
 
From individuals I respect and who are in the know, Thomas Jefferson for example...

and "No wonder the media is so conservative then" never heard that one before, but it's all a farce man Russia vs USA, Dems vs GOP all fake, snake has many heads

Here are the greatest minds who have influenced me:

ludwig von mises
Sidhartha Gutauama
Y'shua Ben Josef
Murray Rothbard
Ayn Rand
Bob Marley
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Franklin
Nikola Tesla


Currently alive:
Thomas Massie
Ron Paul
Roy Sebag


All these people are enlightened
 
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I am influenced by the likes of:

The PJ Masks
Goldie & Bear
Mickie Mouse Club House

When I really want to turn it up I go for Bunk'd and Stuck In The Middle
 
Well there's more truths revealed in our "fiction" works than "non-fiction" so don't feel less than
 
Sirkickyass said:
Truth is having a rough go of it these days.

One of the things that was hardest for me in this media-era was accepting the results of Trump's physical. There's a doctor, a man of science, on a stage and telling me things that feel patently unbelievable: that there's a elderly obese man who ends up in bed with a cheese burger so often that I've often wondered if he's a burger-sexual, but he has a perfectly healthy heart. That someone with obvious mental acuity issues passed a test with a perfect score that i'm pretty sure I would miss a few points on if I took it cold today. It just doesn't feel real.

I found myself dismissing a doctor, in his official capacity as a government official, as fundamentally non-credible.

And that means the Russians have won: there is no objective truth. The populace does not share the same reality. And that means we are no longer a nation.
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That news conference was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
 
babe said:
But being Russians, I'm pretty sure they'll bribe Hillary and Bill or anyone else


to get some good Uranium resources for their very competitive nuclear power plant company Rossatom.

Like oligarchs worldwide, they intend to thrive on their own terms.
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Aside from the fact no uranium deal permitted them to actually export any uranium found in the United States:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thom...wont-declassify-democrats-nunes-memo-rebuttal

Russia, with 487,200t of known recoverable uranium resources by 2011 estimates, is the world’s third richest uranium country. The country produced 3,135t of uranium in 2013 becoming the sixth biggest uranium producing country after Kazakhstan, Canada, Australia, Niger, and Namibia.

Most of Russia’s uranium deposits are located in four districts including the Trans-Ural district in the Kurgan region, the Streltsovskiy district in the Chita region of south eastern Siberia, the Vitimsky district in Buryatia region, and the Elkon district in the Yakutia region.

AtomRedMetZoloto (ARMZ), a mining arm of Russia’s state-run nuclear corporation Rosatom, takes care of all uranium mining and exploration activities in the country. Streltsovskiy is currently the principal uranium producing district in Russia with modest production coming from the Trans-Ural and Vitimsky districts.

The Kraznokamensk underground mine, located in the Chita / Transbaikal region and operated by Priargunsky, a subsidiary of ARMZ, produced 2,011t of uranium in 2012 becoming the biggest uranium mining operation of Russia and the eighth largest in the world
 
@red......

OK, you have a mining brochure or something with numbers on it.

The relevant fact(s) are that Hillary exploited her government office to secure a large private bribe, and passed out the goodies. Her husband was invited to speak and paid extremely well around the same time. It's a payola racket with the Clintons using their political influence for personal gain.

Nobody knows what reserves exist very well, it's a guess based on a few drillings or whatnot. "Proven reserves" might be based on two drillholes.

Globalism is all about corporate interests gaining cartel rank... monopolies.... on resources. The same folks who can make a vast stretch of the earth's surface "protected" can, when existing or accessible resources run low, award contracts to the corporate monopolists still standing, to mine whatever resources are on the land which had been withdrawn from the market while the cartelists needed to keep upstart competitors off.

Rosatom is perhaps the leader in world nuclear power development. Nice to make sure nobody rises to challenge that, for the price of mere $140M payola.

I keep hoping you or someone else in your echo chamber will see the light.

http://www.rosatom.ru/en/rosatom-group/uranium-mining/
 
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Hillary broke US law in setting up a server privately, a clear attempt to evade FOIA discovery of her business deals and other schemes. She also broke US laws designed to protect national security. She has admitted the existence of the server, and the actions taken to destroy evidence sought by legal subpoena. Obstruction of Justice, folks.

I don't know why, really, some folks just won't talk about these facts, let alone insist on criminal prosecution as a deterrent against future abuses by bigshots in government power.

I don't care which party does this sort of thing, or who, or who the fatcat oligharchal beneficiaries are.... GE or Rosatom. It's against the law.

I guess we have a "criminal lawyer" in here who earns his money diverting investigation and prosecution of crime.
 
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