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Is This Team Good?

Yes they are.
I think that they are not as good as they have been playing during the streak but I think they are 5, 6, 7, 8 seed in the west good.
 
Hells to the yea

The players who had their careers first in their head, (Hood, JJ, Hill, Hayward) vamoose. Shed like the outer layer of the onion.

Left is pearl of guys who are thankful to be Jazz, we have the best team chemistry in the league. Bunch of team first guys thankful to be here in the present.
 
Notice how no matter who is out, DM45.... Gobert.... Rubio.... we don't skip a beat. Everyone take a moment to praise to our coaching!

The players. They have bought in.
 
When I think of Jae, I'm reminded of that Lindsay quote to the effect "We want our opponents to feel like they're in for an appointment with the worlds worst dentist."

The teams in the league, they don't face players like Gobert and Jingles everyday, we have unique talents who play team first.
 
When healthy, we have an elite defense. We're easily top-5. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up #1 from the period that Gobert returned from injury, until the end of the season.

This team is better than last year's at defending the perimeter (Rubio>Hill + Crowder>Hood + addition of O'Neale). Haywood is a plus defender, but he isn't a killer like Mitchell. When this team is locked in, all of them are pitbulls pacing at the fence. D-fence, holmeses. We still have all of this even though we've lost Sefolosha.

This team is better defending the paint than last year. Favors is miles healthier. Udoh is better than Withey. Gobert is getting back into form and gelling with the new pieces.


Schedule is softening. Jazz are getting healthy. I won't be surprised if we end up competing for the 5th seed again (my pre-season prediction was the 6th seed). Nobody will want to play us in the playoffs if we are clicking on defense.


None of this^ even acknowledges that we might be better on offense this year, too. It just took a little time, a concept that JFC struggles with.
 
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NAOS said:
When healthy we have an elite defense. We're easily top-5. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up #1 from the period that Gobert returned from injury until the end of the season.

This team is better than last year's at defending the perimeter (Rubio>Hill + Crowder>Hood + addition of O'Neale). Haywood is a plus defender, but he isn't a killer like Mitchell. When this team is locked in, all of them are pitbulls pacing at the fence. D-fence, holmeses. We still have all of this even though we've lost Sefolosha.

This team is better defending the paint than last year. Favors is miles healthier. Udoh is better than Withey. Gobert is getting back into form and gelling with the new pieces.


Schedule is softening. Jazz are getting healthy. I won't be surprised if we end up competing for the 5th seed again (my pre-season prediction was the 6th seed). Nobody will want to play us in the playoffs if we are clicking on defense.


None of this^ even acknowledges that we might be better on offense this year, too. It just took a little time, a concept that JFC struggles with.
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This and we are to the point in the season when some teams will stop trying. Especially with our tough defense and grinding way of play... teams will straight give up because things are hard.

I'm embarrassed that I thought we could actually tank... I was wrong and have offered up my repentance... Ingles has forgiven me and I am now a new man.
 
Consistency may be a problem with this team, though. They should be eager to prove to themselves that they can replicate defense-first principles every farking night, regardless of what happens on the other end (because this team will be prone to ugly nights on offense at a rate beyond what's acceptable).
 
NAOS said:
Consistency may be a problem with this team, though. They should be eager to prove to themselves that they can replicate defense-first principles every farking night, regardless of what happens on the other end (because this team will be prone to ugly nights on offense at a rate beyond what's acceptable).
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I think we are good though. We won a couple ugly games where we weren't shooting great. We won't always win those, but when we get hot I feel like we will almost always win the hot games.
 
No team is God. But we're good and we got better even when we traded toilet boy for Crowder. We're likely the deepest team in the league and a lot of Jazz players can play multiple positions. With Exum out we're currently 11-deep in proven, productive players, which is more than most teams, plus many of them are good defenders.
 
The most encouraging aspects of this streak.
  • The streak hasn't occurred against creampuffs at home.
    • 7 of the 9 wins in the streak have come on the road
    • Beat the Spurs on the road despite not having Mitchell
    • Beat the Blazers on the road despite not having Rubio
    • Beat the Warriors by 30
    • Beat both the Raptors and the Pelicans on the road
  • Most of the wins have been pretty convincing. Very few nailbiters.
  • We've had adversity. It's not like we've been at full strength the entire time (Rubio and Mitchell have both missed time).
These factors make me think that we have a little bit of margin for error if/when the team comes back down to earth. If we were just squeaking by teams or if the teams we beat were pretty sub-par, I'd be a little hesitant to say that we're legit. But what they are doing right now is pretty impressive.
 
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kyjazzfan said:
The most encouraging aspects of this streak.
  • The streak hasn't occurred against creampuffs at home.
    • 7 of the 9 wins in the streak have come on the road
    • Beat the Spurs on the road despite not having Mitchell
    • Beat the Blazers on the road despite not having Rubio
    • Beat the Warriors by 30
    • Beat both the Raptors and the Pelicans on the road
  • Most of the wins have been pretty convincing. Very few nailbiters.
  • We've had adversity. It's not like we've been at full strength the entire time (Rubio and Mitchell have both missed time).
These factors make me think that we have a little bit of margin for error if/when the team comes back down to earth. If we were just squeaking by teams or if the teams we beat were pretty sub-par, I'd be very little hesitant to say that we're legit. But what they are doing right now is pretty impressive.
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You had me until you were hesitant to say we are legit.

We're making the playoffs.

The team is too deep especially on D to not be in games in the 4th quarter. And we have a closer now too.

And if DFavs and Rudy continue to work well together, we are going to steamroll that post all star break schedule.
 
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You had me until you were hesitant to say we are legit.

We're making the playoffs.

The team is too deep especially on D to not be in games in the 4th quarter. And we have a closer now too.

And if DFavs and Rudy continue to work well together, we are going to steamroll that post all star break schedule.
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Meant to say that I'd be hesitant if they were just squeeking by. But they're not. So yeah I think they're legit as well. But I can see why it didn't necessarily read that way.
 
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