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Spade is a spade my friend. If you can't see how corrupt that woman or that family for that matter is, than I don't know what to tell you. I simply notice that certain posters here can't get over a blind hatred (brainwashed by media) of Trump. Can't take for one moment that maybe, just maybe all this nonsense was drummed up to slander a political opponent in the hopes of winning an election.

It's actually quite funny to me how people can be so one sided. I know it's the mainstream thing to hate your current president but that's just like being on a plane and hoping the pilot crashes simply cause you're not a fan of his for whatever reason.

Liberalism is a disease and its plain as day how bad certain folks have contracted it. Unfortunate really.

What’s the count?

4 top trump officials have been indicted. At least two have plead guilty to lying to the FBI.

13 Russians have been indicted.

Sanctions against Russia passed overwhelmingly by the president’s own party remain unenforced.

And you blame this on... Hillary clinton?

Unbelievable. Talk about being brainwashed?! Sheesh!

And for those who want to talk dossier, y’all know that even the Nunes memo admits that Carter Page’s connections to Russia led to FISA warrants, not the dossier, right? Read the memo guys, facts matter. I get that 3 pages is like 6x longer than you trumpers like to read but facts matter
 
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You are such an idiot.

No really. I’m being serious here. The right can’t stop thinking about Hillary. On one hand they accuse her of every possible scandal imaginable. So clearly, she’s the most clever and deceptive person in the world since James Bond had a 3 way love child with Jason Borne And Ethan Hunt. Yet on the other hand, she’s a political has been who lost to a terrible candidate.

Which is it?

And if Hillary were to be jailed for all of the fantasy crimes the right has accused her of over the past 3 decades, what the hell would they bitch about for hours on end on am radio and Fox News? Lebron James? Kaepernick?
 
No really. I’m being serious here. The right can’t stop thinking about Hillary. On one hand they accuse her of every possible scandal imaginable. So clearly, she’s the most clever and deceptive person in the world since James Bond had a 3 way love child with Jason Borne And Ethan Hunt. Yet on the other hand, she’s a political has been who lost to a terrible candidate.

Which is it?

And if Hillary were to be jailed for all of the fantasy crimes the right has accused her of over the past 3 decades, what the hell would they bitch about for hours on end on am radio and Fox News? Lebron James? Kaepernick?
You are the definition of a political partisan. There is no point in engaging with you because everyone knows what you are going to say in every debate before you say it. You simplistically believe that everything done by the left is good and everything done by the right is bad. If Trump was pushing your policies you would love him. If Hillary was on the right you would be detailing all of her crimes for us. Have fun building your strawmen and tearing down arguments that people aren't making and thinking you are so magnificently informed. I don't care.
 
Spade is a spade my friend. If you can't see how corrupt that woman or that family for that matter is, than I don't know what to tell you. I simply notice that certain posters here can't get over a blind hatred (brainwashed by media) of Trump. Can't take for one moment that maybe, just maybe all this nonsense was drummed up to slander a political opponent in the hopes of winning an election.

Lol. Yes the media slandered Trump. He hasn’t said about 25 despicable things publicly that I wouldn’t want anyone to say or truly feel as a human being with any character, and yet he did and he somehow was still elected to be the President of this country.

He dug his own holes, my friend.
 
Yep, he isn't exactly polished in the public speaking realm, I'll give you that. But to only have a blind hatred for him while turning a blind eye to the corrupt individuals in DC is blasphemous at best. The blind hatred is astounding. He has done or tried to do good things for the country and has hit road blocks, many times, illegal road blocks stemming from the democrats and liberal courts.

I'm not saying to anyone you have to love the guy but to act like he is the worst thing ever is an overreach at best. Not even acknowledging evidence that stares you in the face about his counterparts is childish and shows lack of critical thinking. The fact is, some would rather hate him because that is what you've been conditioned to do rather than objectively look at what he is and has accomplished. That's my point.

Either way, that's the beauty of America isn't it? The right to think freely.
 
What’s the count?

4 top trump officials have been indicted. At least two have plead guilty to lying to the FBI.

13 Russians have been indicted.

Sanctions against Russia passed overwhelmingly by the president’s own party remain unenforced.

And you blame this on... Hillary clinton?

Unbelievable. Talk about being brainwashed?! Sheesh!

And for those who want to talk dossier, y’all know that even the Nunes memo admits that Carter Page’s connections to Russia led to FISA warrants, not the dossier, right? Read the memo guys, facts matter. I get that 3 pages is like 6x longer than you trumpers like to read but facts matter

Never said any of those things but keep telling yourself that. I simply said that HRC bought and paid for fake information with the sole reason being to discredit a political opponent. To me, that much has been proven. Also, the indictments that I have seen actually don't have much if anything to do with the actual Russia thing. They are pulling at straws at best and trying to find anything that sticks.

You can hate the guy all you want, but for as much as you want to throw random things in my face, I can do the same with your love affair for the Dems and HRC. In the end, it won't really matter, you won't change your thoughts and I won't change mine.

And yes, I do believe he should pass the sanctions against Russia. Look, I don't love everything about the guy but I do want him to succeed because I do love my country and want all of us to be prosperous.
 
Yep, he isn't exactly polished in the public speaking realm, I'll give you that. But to only have a blind hatred for him while turning a blind eye to the corrupt individuals in DC is blasphemous at best. The blind hatred is astounding. He has done or tried to do good things for the country and has hit road blocks, many times, illegal road blocks stemming from the democrats and liberal courts.

I'm not saying to anyone you have to love the guy but to act like he is the worst thing ever is an overreach at best. Not even acknowledging evidence that stares you in the face about his counterparts is childish and shows lack of critical thinking. The fact is, some would rather hate him because that is what you've been conditioned to do rather than objectively look at what he is and has accomplished. That's my point.

Either way, that's the beauty of America isn't it? The right to think freely.
It's not lack of polish. It is utterly atrocious things that come out of his mouth. Not just the content of what he says, but the bravado, the ego, the arrogance and the complete disregard for facts and reality.

We don't need to be brainwashed to not like that. I have never liked that. I don't care who it is that says what Trump says or acts the way Trump acts. It turns my stomach.
 
Never said any of those things but keep telling yourself that. I simply said that HRC bought and paid for fake information with the sole reason being to discredit a political opponent. To me, that much has been proven. Also, the indictments that I have seen actually don't have much if anything to do with the actual Russia thing. They are pulling at straws at best and trying to find anything that sticks.

You can hate the guy all you want, but for as much as you want to throw random things in my face, I can do the same with your love affair for the Dems and HRC. In the end, it won't really matter, you won't change your thoughts and I won't change mine.

And yes, I do believe he should pass the sanctions against Russia. Look, I don't love everything about the guy but I do want him to succeed because I do love my country and want all of us to be prosperous.

Ummm no, you can’t.

We don’t have false equivalency here. You spout off fact free nonsense. I rely on fact driven data.
 
You are the definition of a political partisan. There is no point in engaging with you because everyone knows what you are going to say in every debate before you say it. You simplistically believe that everything done by the left is good and everything done by the right is bad. If Trump was pushing your policies you would love him. If Hillary was on the right you would be detailing all of her crimes for us. Have fun building your strawmen and tearing down arguments that people aren't making and thinking you are so magnificently informed. I don't care.

Not at all.

Trump isn’t pushing our policies. Not that politics even matter. It’s his conduct.

He’s a sleazy traitor who debases the office every single day. I wouldn’t support him even if he supported our policies.
 
Yep, he isn't exactly polished in the public speaking realm, I'll give you that. But to only have a blind hatred for him while turning a blind eye to the corrupt individuals in DC is blasphemous at best. The blind hatred is astounding. He has done or tried to do good things for the country and has hit road blocks, many times, illegal road blocks stemming from the democrats and liberal courts.

I'm not saying to anyone you have to love the guy but to act like he is the worst thing ever is an overreach at best. Not even acknowledging evidence that stares you in the face about his counterparts is childish and shows lack of critical thinking. The fact is, some would rather hate him because that is what you've been conditioned to do rather than objectively look at what he is and has accomplished. That's my point.

Either way, that's the beauty of America isn't it? The right to think freely.
Donald Trump is the biggest political paradox I've ever seen. I sometimes wonder if he would have stood a chance with Republicans if not for the path that Bill Clinton paved. I think the answer is no.
It's not lack of polish. It is utterly atrocious things that come out of his mouth. Not just the content of what he says, but the bravado, the ego, the arrogance and the complete disregard for facts and reality.

We don't need to be brainwashed to not like that. I have never liked that. I don't care who it is that says what Trump says or acts the way Trump acts. It turns my stomach.
It's funny how people's stomachs tend to get turned in correlation with their political alignment. Can you imagine what Trump would be doing to the stomachs of the right wingers if he was on the left?
 
Not at all.

Trump isn’t pushing our policies. Not that politics even matter. It’s his conduct.

He’s a sleazy traitor who debases the office every single day. I wouldn’t support him even if he supported our policies.
Yeah, right. Get back to me once you've posted a single opinion that does not run directly down party lines.
 
I agree Joe, it is funny how your perception can get turned with your political alignment.
Okay for the like third-donzenth time. Hillary is only the second Democrat I've ever voted for, the other was Kerry. I've voted for far more Republicans than Democrats. I only voted for Hillary because it was her or Trump.

And before joe posts some more of his snarky **** talk, 99% of the time I think either candidate would be competent and would have the best interests of the nation at heart. I don't like Pence but would be happy if he took over the White House. I think Hillary would have done a fine job. Even if she's dirty she knows how to get **** done. So go for it joe, tell everyone how much I love Hillary because I didn't trash her and basically said neutral things about her.

Ask @colton how he feels about Trump. I guess you'll call him a liberal once you hear his take.
 
Yep, he isn't exactly polished in the public speaking realm, I'll give you that. But to only have a blind hatred for him while turning a blind eye to the corrupt individuals in DC is blasphemous at best. The blind hatred is astounding. He has done or tried to do good things for the country and has hit road blocks, many times, illegal road blocks stemming from the democrats and liberal courts.

I'm not saying to anyone you have to love the guy but to act like he is the worst thing ever is an overreach at best. Not even acknowledging evidence that stares you in the face about his counterparts is childish and shows lack of critical thinking. The fact is, some would rather hate him because that is what you've been conditioned to do rather than objectively look at what he is and has accomplished. That's my point.

Either way, that's the beauty of America isn't it? The right to think freely.

The two are mutually exclusive. Congress’ members pretty much suck as a whole.

So does Trump.

One has nothing to do with the other.
 
Donald Trump is the biggest political paradox I've ever seen. I sometimes wonder if he would have stood a chance with Republicans if not for the path that Bill Clinton paved. I think the answer is no.
It's funny how people's stomachs tend to get turned in correlation with their political alignment. Can you imagine what Trump would be doing to the stomachs of the right wingers if he was on the left?

He should be turning everyone’s stomach. Left.right. Whatever.
He is a horrible human no matter what “side” he is on.
 
Okay for the like third-donzenth time. Hillary is only the second Democrat I've ever voted for, the other was Kerry. I've voted for far more Republicans than Democrats. I only voted for Hillary because it was her or Trump.

And before joe posts some more of his snarky **** talk, 99% of the time I think either candidate would be competent and would have the best interests of the nation at heart. I don't like Pence but would be happy if he took over the White House. I think Hillary would have done a fine job. Even if she's dirty she knows how to get **** done. So go for it joe, tell everyone how much I love Hillary because I didn't trash her and basically said neutral things about her.

Ask @colton how he feels about Trump. I guess you'll call him a liberal once you hear his take.

Ya I only voted for a democrat once. Hillary.
#nevertrump
 
Tbh I think trump probably does turn almost everyone’s stomach.... people are so committed to their politics that they will still support him though cause he is on their side even if they think he is a vile disgusting man.
 
Okay for the like third-donzenth time. Hillary is only the second Democrat I've ever voted for, the other was Kerry. I've voted for far more Republicans than Democrats. I only voted for Hillary because it was her or Trump.

And before joe posts some more of his snarky **** talk, 99% of the time I think either candidate would be competent and would have the best interests of the nation at heart. I don't like Pence but would be happy if he took over the White House. I think Hillary would have done a fine job. Even if she's dirty she knows how to get **** done. So go for it joe, tell everyone how much I love Hillary because I didn't trash her and basically said neutral things about her.

Ask @colton how he feels about Trump. I guess you'll call him a liberal once you hear his take.
Neutral things like that she was the most qualified presidential candidate in your lifetime, and how the only reason people were saying anything negative about her was that they were sexist trash? Okay.

But I won't point out that you were okay with Bill's sexual behavior and thought it (and Hillary's tacit approval of it) had no political relevance, because you went from believing that such things were politically irrelevant to believing accusations regarding such things should be grounds for impeachment/firing. I wonder what brought about that change?

And in return please tell everyone how much I love Trump because I didn't trash talk him?
 
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