Dunc'd on Podcast Utah Jazz Off-season Outlook

[Handlogten's Heros]

If Phoenix can clear just a little space they can sign a Deandre Jordan, Favs, or Boogie to be their big. Drafting Doncic and adding their big in FA would be the course of action I would take.

 

[campaignist]

What do you all think are the chances the Jazz go after Marcus Smart?

I'd rather have him instead of Exum (that was the case in their draft too) and he'd be an amazing fit. I think attitude and effort wise, he's Jazz material. But, unless he gets a Godfather deal and gets overpaid, he won't sign. Plus he can probably find a starting job somewhere. If he's willing to get starter's minutes but not start, I'm totally down. He's a top 5 defender in the league.

 

[Ron Mexico]

If Phoenix can clear just a little space they can sign a Deandre Jordan, Favs, or Boogie to be their big. Drafting Doncic and adding their big in FA would be the course of action I would take.

I would trade jerebko (who they can waive) for Bender. I think he has good potential still. I would even throw in a second.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd rather have him instead of Exum (that was the case in their draft too) and he'd be an amazing fit. I think attitude and effort wise, he's Jazz material. But, unless he gets a Godfather deal and gets overpaid, he won't sign. Plus he can probably find a starting job somewhere. If he's willing to get starter's minutes but not start, I'm totally down. He's a top 5 defender in the league.

I think Smart is pretty over rated and I really hope the Celtics overpay for him. he makes a lot of tipping point plays... for both teams.

A good defensive team would expose the celtics and punish them for having him on the court. His net rating stuff is not kind. The Cavs defense is complete trash... like one of the worst in the league trash.

He's useful, but I like the long term prospects of Dante so much more.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I would trade jerebko (who they can waive) for Bender. I think he has good potential still. I would even throw in a second.

Bender does nothing for me, but that price would be tough to say no to.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Bender does nothing for me, but that price would be tough to say no to.

I wouldn't give up much for him but he has all the tools to be a good fit. He has reasonably athletic and moves well, he can play defense and defend the rim, he can shoot, drive and pass.

He might not become a starter but I think at least he could become a good change of pace at center and/or pf. He also could become the ideal stretch 4. One that can still protect the rim if a team pulls Gobert out which is what makes the favors Gobert combo good but can do a little more offensively than Favors. Plus he is tall enough that teams can't put a SF or guard on him when he is helping space the court out.

 

[LoPo]

The deal to do is:

Thabo, Jerekbo, Udoh, #21 and #52
for
Tyson Chandler, #16 and #31

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaxqxsjg

Phoenix gets their #1 pick they use on Doncic then offer Capella the max with the massive savings we give them. They still have #21 to add too.

We get a better backup C than what Udoh provides. And we have backup C insurance should Favors leave. And this also gives Bradley one more year to develop. #16 gives us a good shot at the pick we really want to fall to #21. #31 could be used or traded for a future 1st.

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[Ron Mexico]

The deal to do is:

Thabo, Jerekbo, Udoh, #21 and #52
for
Tyson Chandler, #16 and #31

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaxqxsjg

Phoenix gets their #1 pick they use on Doncic then offer Capella the max with the massive savings we give them. They still have #21 to add too.

We get a better backup C than what Udoh provides. And we have backup C insurance should Favors leave. And this also gives Bradley one more year to develop. #16 gives us a good shot at the pick we really want to fall to #21. #31 could be used or traded for a future 1st.

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I would rather keep our guys.

 

[LoPo]

I think it all depends on if we like somebody at #16 we don't think will drop to #21. Last year, Lyles represented a decent asset good enough to use to move up. This year, our nonguaranteeds represent that decent asset.

But you are right Ron, if there isn't a target at #16, then I would rather keep those guys.

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[theonlyone]

I'd rather have him instead of Exum (that was the case in their draft too) and he'd be an amazing fit. I think attitude and effort wise, he's Jazz material. But, unless he gets a Godfather deal and gets overpaid, he won't sign. Plus he can probably find a starting job somewhere. If he's willing to get starter's minutes but not start, I'm totally down. He's a top 5 defender in the league.

I vaguely remember when the draft happened that it was mentioned that Smart did not want the Jazz to pick him.

 

[Hekate]

Also Chandler isn't better than Udoh.

The deal to do is:

Thabo, Jerekbo, Udoh, #21 and #52
for
Tyson Chandler, #16 and #31

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaxqxsjg

Phoenix gets their #1 pick they use on Doncic then offer Capella the max with the massive savings we give them. They still have #21 to add too.

We get a better backup C than what Udoh provides. And we have backup C insurance should Favors leave. And this also gives Bradley one more year to develop. #16 gives us a good shot at the pick we really want to fall to #21. #31 could be used or traded for a future 1st.

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Chanler isn't better than Udoh and he is almost 36. I would rather keep Udoh.

 

[Jack Strop]

Udoh, Jerebko and Thabo are very disposable. I could see Utah just declining options on all of them.
Ekpe is a complete liability on offense. If he's the backup behind Gobert, Utah is in deep ****. Jonas barely played. Hit a few 3's. Really not important. And Thabo, along with being a year older, is coming off an injury. I could see him decline as much as JJ did. I'd rather see those 3 roster spots go to better backups, or young players with some upside (like the roster spot created for Royce O'Neale last year).

 

[Coach Ellis]

Also Chandler isn't better than Udoh.

Chanler isn't better than Udoh and he is almost 36. I would rather keep Udoh.

Love Udoh. He’s a great person and fits his role on this team perfectly.

With that said. . . I think the Jazz need to consolidate and acquire assets for the future. That might mean that they have to trade Udoh, Sefalosha and Jerebko to cash in on their non-guaranteed contracts.

There’s a good chance that none of those guys contribute in the playoffs next year, and Jazz desperately need to find more guys that help them match up with Houston and Golden State better.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Udoh, Jerebko and Thabo are very disposable. I could see Utah just declining options on all of them.
Ekpe is a complete liability on offense. If he's the backup behind Gobert, Utah is in deep ****. Jonas barely played. Hit a few 3's. Really not important. And Thabo, along with being a year older, is coming off an injury. I could see him decline as much as JJ did. I'd rather see those 3 roster spots go to better backups, or young players with some upside (like the roster spot created for Royce O'Neale last year).

If the Jazz are willing to eat the cost, trading them for an asset or selling cap space would be a great use for them instead of just cutting them loose.

The big question becomes “How much is cap space or avoiding the tax going to be worth? I’m hoping it’s a lot.

 

[fishonjazz]

Udoh, Jerebko and Thabo are very disposable. I could see Utah just declining options on all of them.
Ekpe is a complete liability on offense. If he's the backup behind Gobert, Utah is in deep ****. Jonas barely played. Hit a few 3's. Really not important. And Thabo, along with being a year older, is coming off an injury. I could see him decline as much as JJ did. I'd rather see those 3 roster spots go to better backups, or young players with some upside (like the roster spot created for Royce O'Neale last year).

I seem to remember jonas playing quite a bit

 

[infection]

Udoh, Jerebko and Thabo are very disposable. I could see Utah just declining options on all of them.
Ekpe is a complete liability on offense. If he's the backup behind Gobert, Utah is in deep ****. Jonas barely played. Hit a few 3's. Really not important. And Thabo, along with being a year older, is coming off an injury. I could see him decline as much as JJ did. I'd rather see those 3 roster spots go to better backups, or young players with some upside (like the roster spot created for Royce O'Neale last year).

I love all three of those guys. If we had a decent stretch four and lost Favors, I think people would be surprised what 48 minutes of rim protection looks like.

 

[LoPo]

I like all 3 nonguaranteeds, but @Ellis269 is right, if their nonguaranteed contracts can be used as an asset to gain a better long term asset, that is the action we need to take.

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[Coach Ellis]

I seem to remember jonas playing quite a bit

Jonas played a lot because he had to. Replace him with Carroll or Hezonja (or both) on this roster and he doesn’t play much in the postseason. Love the guy, but those two would be more valuable in the playoffs for sure.

 

[Douchebag K]

I'd rather have him instead of Exum (that was the case in their draft too) and he'd be an amazing fit. I think attitude and effort wise, he's J cazz material. But, unless he gets a Godfather deal and gets overpaid, he won't sign. Plus he can probably find a starting job somewhere. If het. was c's willing to get starter's minutes but not start, I'm totally down. He's a top 5 defender in the league.

Smart is a good defender but you’re getting carried away, he’s not anywhere near top 5. And his flopping is farcical, he’s like the James Harden of defense

 

[gregbroncs]

I'd rather have him instead of Exum (that was the case in their draft too) and he'd be an amazing fit. I think attitude and effort wise, he's Jazz material. But, unless he gets a Godfather deal and gets overpaid, he won't sign. Plus he can probably find a starting job somewhere. If he's willing to get starter's minutes but not start, I'm totally down. He's a top 5 defender in the league.

Not me. Dante when healthy outplayed Smart in the summer league. Smart has done more in the league but he's still a backup PG with no real chance at being more than that. He's a good defensive player but so is Exum.