Following Potential 2018 Draftees

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Spellman is a bull in a china shop, but he could be forceful in the paint and the jumper works well enough. Don't think he's much of a rim protector though.

Not much of a rim protector, not someone who can guard on the perimeter against modern 4's, is old for his class, didnt draw fouls at the college level despite size, is fat, how much will his 3pt shot translate. At 52, sure, it would be a fine pick, but I dont think he is a NBA player.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He had 1.5 blocks a game - played decent defense during the tournament. The majority of stretch-4s are below average defenders - I think Spellman can be somewhat decent if he works at it - he's athletic for his size. That's the question for me though - work-ethic.

Anyone above 6'8 in college basketball can average 1.5 blocks game. Tyler Lydon did it twice.

 

[kabenac]

Anyone above 6'8 in college basketball can average 1.5 blocks game. Tyler Lydon did it twice.

Trey Lyles couldn't.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Trey Lyles couldn't.

I said anyone can, not everyone does.

It's not a special stat.

*And Lyles played out of position away from the rim in college*

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

I like spellman but he came into the combine fat and that turned me off as a first rounder.

Like cy said in the second round he is worth the gamble that he will work his butt off. (Literally)

He has some talent and could be good but he would have to live in the gym




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[Pastramiking]

Mo Wagner! Mo Wagner!! Mo Wager!!! Size, energy, vocal leader, post moves, 3-pt range, runs floor. He would be perfect 4/5 in Jazz system. Corner 3, Top of key 3, PnR, PnP. Energetic defender. Needs to add strength but that is normal.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

A true competitor would forgo entering the most competitive league in favor of going to college? Right....

If he goes back, it's probably because he doesnt feel ready and/or he enjoys being a collegiate athlete.

Are you this naive when it comes to the experiences these players take, what with coach advise and illegal behind the scenes advice and all?

Stay 1 year, make 5 mil. Stay 2 years and maybe a 20+ guaranteed payday.

You aren't stupid enough to not think of the gambles these kids take.

But, Gobert did, to your credit, a bawse is a boss.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Are you this naive when it comes to the experiences these players take, what with coach advise and illegal behind the scenes advice and all?

Stay 1 year, make 5 mil. Stay 2 years and maybe a 20+ guaranteed payday.

You aren't stupid enough to not think of the gambles these kids take.

But, Gobert did, to your credit, a bawse is a boss.

The first overall pick isn't even 20 million guaranteed.

The sooner you get in the nba the sooner you get to your 2nd contract.

 

[SCS]

I think the thing for Huerter is that he's not a 1st rd lock. There are so many talented wings that are going to be available in the second half of round 1. Some are going to drop into the 2nd rd. If he drops into the 2nd rd this year when he could be a lottery pick next year, he's leaving a lot of money and a guaranteed place in the NBA on the table. It's a gamble to stay in, and it's a tough choice. I understand why he would want to fly back home and discuss it with his family.

 

[Game6Conley]

He measured 6'7"

Yeah I know. What im saying is Troy Brown, who's a player thats been on the national recruiting radar for like 5+ years, was at least 6'5 a long time ago, probably when he was like 14.

He's whats called an early bloomer.

 

[Game6Conley]

PF. Maybe even some C against small ball lineups. He has a 7'3 1/4 wingspan.

KBD cant play C. Keevon Looney is much better rebounder, and has spent a ton of time at the 5 in HS.... he wouldnt be projected in the 20's if teams thought he could play all the frontcourt positions.

A player like Thaddeus Young is better suited for that role, young was pretty much exclusively a C before he got to Georgia Tech. He could be a free agent too, has a termination option.

 

[Game6Conley]

Sexton is a terrible fit for us...

No he's not. He'd immediately improve the teams fask break and ability to finish at the rim.. Sexton beats his defender goin left most of the time he's a super dangerous peice on the perimeter to flank Mitchell.

 

[Game6Conley]

Spellman is a bull in a china shop, but he could be forceful in the paint and the jumper works well enough. Don't think he's much of a rim protector though.

He's not a bull in a china shop...... Spellman is a cool customer. This was on full display all tournament. He's got excellent game-sense and seems to rise to the occasion, whenever he got an open look from 3 he looks super confident.

 

[Game6Conley]

any chance huerter is going back to school?

Maryland will be quite good and one of my highest priority teams to watch if he does.

They have this 6'10 big Jalen Smith incoming who's got 1st rd material written all lver him, he blocks shots and has a silky J, ive seen Myles Turner comps.

Also have a 4star swingman 6'6 Aaron Wiggins who's damn good and has a real chance.

The big question is how high could he go in 2019 tho, i'd say 12-20ish is feasible.

 

[Game6Conley]

Tyus Battle never gets discussed here..... I'd defend the pick if they took him in the 1st.

 

[Game6Conley]

I think the thing for Huerter is that he's not a 1st rd lock. There are so many talented wings that are going to be available in the second half of round 1. Some are going to drop into the 2nd rd. If he drops into the 2nd rd this year when he could be a lottery pick next year, he's leaving a lot of money and a guaranteed place in the NBA on the table. It's a gamble to stay in, and it's a tough choice. I understand why he would want to fly back home and discuss it with his family.

A team i root for has one of the top 2nd rd picks and im really hoping Huerter falls to them.
I want Bamba in the 1st, Huerter in the 2nd, Will Barton, Cory Joseph and Thaddeus Young in free agency.

I dont have much hope tho, Huerter might be a 1st rd lock. He couldve gotten a promise which prompted this family meeting. I used to swear up and down the 2017 thread he was good enough to go in the 1st then, he was 30th in many of my mocks.

 

[The Thriller]

Trey Lyles sucks. Such a horrible pick.

He distracts himself farting on the bench.

Spellman, if he can keep his weight down, will be a very useful player for someone.

Meanwhile, no one can trust Lyles because he has the work ethic of a slug and the attention span of a squirrel. Once millsap came back he rarely played.

He sucks.

 

[The Thriller]

He's not a bull in a china shop...... Spellman is a cool customer. This was on full display all tournament. He's got excellent game-sense and seems to rise to the occasion, whenever he got an open look from 3 he looks super confident.

Yep.

Very rugged rebounder, always boxes out, plays hard, and has a smooth shot.

Unlike Lyles who stands around, never plays hard, and bricks everything he chucks up.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

The first overall pick isn't even 20 million guaranteed.

The sooner you get in the nba the sooner you get to your 2nd contract.

I forgot about the rule change but the decision point still stands. If a player goes in the late 20's he is guaranteed about 2.5. Grow another year in college and break into the top ten and you are doubling that or more.

Add in the fact that top picks are usually on bad teams so you'll get more PT. Plus, young top picks tend to get retained the full 4 and a QO. Easier sell to the fanbase with players like Exum than letting a late pick walk after 2 seasons. GMs don't want to get fired over busting on early picks either, so I imagine bad teams put extra emphasis on high draft pick development.

 

[Game6Conley]

Yep.

Very rugged rebounder, always boxes out, plays hard, and has a smooth shot.

Unlike Lyles who stands around, never plays hard, and bricks everything he chucks up.

Spellmans weight doesnt concern me either. The real 'danger threshold' is like 17% bf% or higher according to DX's database and he was like 12 or 13%right? He's clearly trending in the right direction, the before /after pics are convincing.

Body fat is a curious metric anyways if fluctuates daily and these players have plenty of warning to trim down. Whats CP3's bf% right now? How bout Ray Feltons? I do believe theres something to that threshold around 16 or 17% tho for potential draftees, after that according to dx's database the talent level nose dives into g-league level talent, and IIRC there are no outliers to this treshold.....