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Have people given up on Big Al?

I told you all, he was brought in to replace Boozer in the one-two punch. DIDN'T WORK. He's not the future anymore. Get over it.
 
Ummm... that's your argument, apparently.

No, I'm responding to your argument. You said you were more concerned with Al's numbers in Boston and Utah than Minny. I assumed you meant because he played on better teams, or at least teams with more structure. I only pointed out that Boston's teams sucked. And if they had more structure sucking with Doc running the show, Al posted his best efficiency numbers with them in the only year he started before the trade.
 
Jazz record when Al scores:
30+: 4-4
20-30: 14-14
<20: 21-25

There is not a strong correlation with Al's scoring total and our win total. The logic here is even on our offensively limited roster, we have guys capable of scoring at a high enough efficiency rate to replace Al. The strongest evidence came in our monumental win against the Heat where Al had 2 points, and late season against the Lakers where Al had 11. Having said that, I would not be in a rush to trade him. Favors is terribly young, and Kanter will be even younger should we draft him. Let Al have one more year as the man and see if he can evolve his game and take that next step to become an all star level player.
 
I told you all, he was brought in to replace Boozer in the one-two punch. DIDN'T WORK. He's not the future anymore. Get over it.

And the constant Boozer trolling continues. Seriously, find a new "thing". It has been beaten to death. You have lost all credibility and it isn't even interesting any more.
 
No, I'm responding to your argument. You said you were more concerned with Al's numbers in Boston and Utah than Minny. I assumed you meant because he played on better teams, or at least teams with more structure. I only pointed out that Boston's teams sucked. And if they had more structure sucking with Doc running the show, Al posted his best efficiency numbers with them in the only year he started before the trade.

I said no such thing. It would take too much effort at this point to explain what you could go back and read for yourself.

But I'll try anyway: Hantler talked about his "track record" with Minnesota, to which I mentioned Boston and Utah. I thought we were talking about his being a career-loser because that's what I bring up constantly and winning is all I care about, and Al has found a way to lose in situations that were not hopeless. In fact, the contrast in one season of his leaving or arriving with respect to Boston and Utah is dumb-founding. Make excuses until you're blue in the face all you want, because that's all Jefferson homers have been doing for 5-7 years now.
 
Of course big men need other good players. And of course they have to play in a system. But a low post scoring threat is part of virtually every winning team, and often it's the most important part. The Lakers won behind Shaq. The Spurs won behind Duncan. The Rockets won behind Hakeem. Yeah, there are exceptions. When you've got Jordan, you don't need the bigs to be truly dominant. But an inside outside game, usually anchored by two stars, is like the hallmark of championship building.
Big Al is not comparable to Shaq (dominant physical force), Duncan (highly efficient, great team player) or Hakeem (probably the most versatile of the group). Those three also happen to be far superior defenders. If Big Al can become more efficient when shooting (drawing fouls and/or hitting shots at a higher clip) and/or become a better team player on O, his low post game may become good enough to be a key part of a championship team. As of right now, he's easily replaceable. As I've stated numerous times, I think the Jazz should wait and see what happens to start this coming season before doing anything drastic (unless, of course, a no-brainer deal falls into their lap...not dumping Millsap for spare parts). It's possible AJ comes back in great shape ready to kick ***. We'll see.
 
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