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Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

Honestly though, who wants Kevin Love right now? What team sees him as their missing piece?

Portland?
Memphis?
Miami?
 
ONE LOVE said:
Wow.

Are we in with a chance?

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It would be after we sign Favors and Exum. We would have to unload Burks and sign him to a contract? But, I don't know that's a risk. But sometimes you need to take a risk. Favors is what we need -- solid and gives the Jazz a fast start this season. Jabari is a high risk/high reward move.
 
Hedda Gambler said:
Now that the Cavs are saying that they are open to trading Kevin Love, what is our offer for him if Derrick leaves?
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AB, Jerebko (Udoh if needed for salary purposes) and a bunch of 2nd round draft picks.

A.) They get some draft assets out of the deal for a guy who could potentially walk away next year for nothing.

B.) They know for sure that they aren’t on the hook for his 2019/20 salary, giving them a pathway to major cap room starting next offseason.

C.) If they get a better offer. . . so be it. Keep options open to add a player via trade at the deadline. I don’t overpay to get Kevin Love. His age and injury issues don’t fit our current timeline. It’s a stopgap measure at best IMO.
 
Ellis269 said:
AB, Jerebko (Udoh if needed for salary purposes) and a bunch of 2nd round draft picks.

A.) They get some draft assets out of the deal for a guy who could potentially walk away next year for nothing.

B.) They know for sure that they aren’t on the hook for his 2019/20 salary, giving them a pathway to major cap room starting next offseason.

C.) If they get a better offer. . . so be it. Keep options open to add a player via trade at the deadline. I don’t overpay to get Kevin Love. His age and injury issues don’t fit our current timeline. It’s a stopgap measure at best IMO.
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You wouldn`t even give up a first? IMO that is a lowball offer. Times have changed and my money is on Love opting in to the last year of his contract. Who else is going to give him $26 million a year next summer? His defensive liabilities means that he has to have someone like Gobert behind him to not drag the team down on D. Burks, Udoh and Jerebko are good to match salaries, but you would have to think that the Cavs would want at least a first round pick to consider it.
 
The best spot for Kevin Love is Milwaukee. There has to be a way to get Love to the Bucks, Bledsoe to a 3rd team who wants him, and that 3rd team gives assets to the Cavs. Bucks also give assets to Cleveland (although they are thin on picks since their 2019 pick goes to Phoenix).
 
I don't like Kevin's Love age for the timeline for this team. There I said it. He's a shooter. Find another shooter his size with decent skill. He's overpriced. Find someone else cheaper where you don't lose assets to get him.
 
infection said:
Love or Parker are drastically better options than Favors. I fear we're complacent about him.
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But getting them is not in our full control. Re-signing Favs is more controllable. I think getting him on a team favorable deal is good. I think we can get Bjelica and be a more flexible team. Get the reasonable effects of having a stretch 4.

I prefer Parker to Love, but understand your thinking here. I think we are loyal to a fault, but Favs provides us an elite option if Rudy needs to miss time. If Love gets traded for cheap then I'd be in (expirings and a 1st). If Parker goes 3-4 years for 15M per... I think we may have missed a good opportunity.

I'm not sure they are drastically better when you figure the sacrifice, risk, and acquisition cost.
 
Okay, let's retain favors and Exum on good deals. Trade Burks because he deserves playing time in a system that fits him and we need the cap space. Then let jerebko go. Then go after Jabari. Probably let udoh go as well if needed. But I would rather retain him if we can.
 
Hedda Gambler said:
You wouldn`t even give up a first? IMO that is a lowball offer. Times have changed and my money is on Love opting in to the last year of his contract. Who else is going to give him $26 million a year next summer? His defensive liabilities means that he has to have someone like Gobert behind him to not drag the team down on D. Burks, Udoh and Jerebko are good to match salaries, but you would have to think that the Cavs would want at least a first round pick to consider it.
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Nope. I wouldn’t give up a 1st. Take the future cap space and some 2nd round picks or leave it. The Jazz need to be focused on adding guys who fit our timeline to maximize the rise of Spida Mitchell. Throwing away assets and all of our cap space for a 2year rental is bad business. Satisfies fans, but doesn’t help the Jazz become contenders. I’d rather bring back Favors and Exum and then go after Mirotic next year than dump more than we have to into getting Love.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Okay, let's retain favors and Exum on good deals. Trade Burks because he deserves playing time in a system that fits him and we need the cap space. Then let jerebko go. Then go after Jabari. Probably let udoh go as well if needed. But I would rather retain him if we can.
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You can't convince Jabari to come here if Favors is expecting to start. The strongest asset to our team right now is happiness all around. If you add Favors AND Jabari, you don't have to be a fortune teller to see the end result.
 
I also think having Favs on a good deal helps us mid season when the Clips trade Tobias Harris. Using his good salary and a 1st should be close to a market rate offer when that team goes to ****.
 
Ron Mexico said:
If you have health concerns about Parker you probably shouldn't have interest in love.
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It's different, but in a way that almost concerns me more. Not one injury, but multiple hand injuries... lingering knee issues. For price, upside, and timeline I prefer Jabari.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
But getting them is not in our full control. Re-signing Favs is more controllable. I think getting him on a team favorable deal is good. I think we can get Bjelica and be a more flexible team. Get the reasonable effects of having a stretch 4.

I prefer Parker to Love, but understand your thinking here. I think we are loyal to a fault, but Favs provides us an elite option if Rudy needs to miss time. If Love gets traded for cheap then I'd be in (expirings and a 1st). If Parker goes 3-4 years for 15M per... I think we may have missed a good opportunity.

I'm not sure they are drastically better when you figure the sacrifice, risk, and acquisition cost.
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The way I see it is that our chemistry is a big strength. However, we really need more offensive punch and floor spacing and the best way address that without significantly compromising chemistry is letting Favors walk. If we retain him beyond a year, we'll make future moves (or not have the opportunity to make future moves) based on that, i.e. a Tobias Harris. Even if we don't immediately have an answer, I feel retaining him is short-sighted.
 
LoPo said:
You can't convince Jabari to come here if Favors is expecting to start. The strongest asset to our team right now is happiness all around. If you add Favors AND Jabari, you don't have to be a fortune teller to see the end result.
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You sell him on 6th man role. Favors starts but comes out and plays a lot of minutes at backup 5 like he has. There is plenty of time at the 4 for Jabari.
 
infection said:
The way I see it is that our chemistry is a big strength. However, we really need more offensive punch and floor spacing and the best way address that without significantly compromising chemistry is letting Favors walk. If we retain him beyond a year, we'll make future moves (or not have the opportunity to make future moves) based on that, i.e. a Tobias Harris. Even if we don't immediately have an answer, I feel retaining him is short-sighted.
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It's a difficult situation... you don't want to Ainge the guy and sign him and move him 90 days later... I just think retaining him on a team favorable deal is a good route. I prefer a sign and trade with Milwaukee, but doesn't seem to be headed that way at all.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Okay, let's retain favors and Exum on good deals. Trade Burks because he deserves playing time in a system that fits him and we need the cap space. Then let jerebko go. Then go after Jabari. Probably let udoh go as well if needed. But I would rather retain him if we can.
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The only realistic way to get Parker is to do a double sign and trade with Favors. This is really hard as both players have to agree and come to terms with their new teams. If we keep Favors, we could use Burks as a salary filler and give up future picks. We would then have a front court trio of Gobert, Favors and Parker. That would be really, really sweet, but I doubt that Favors and Parker would enjoy this situation.
 
Salary wise, we can send Burks and Bradley out for Kevin Love. Have one of DL's analytics guys try to spin some kind of nonsense in a presentation to Dan Gilbert about Bradley's potential.
 
whatthe said:
It would be after we sign Favors and Exum. We would have to unload Burks and sign him to a contract? But, I don't know that's a risk. But sometimes you need to take a risk. Favors is what we need -- solid and gives the Jazz a fast start this season. Jabari is a high risk/high reward move.
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We have a chance to go for a title this year. No BS. That's the mentality we need ATM.

WITH KEVIN LOVE WE ARE A LEGITIMATE THREAT FOR A NBA TITLE THIS YEAR. Or with Jabari playing well. We are that ****ing close.
 
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