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NBA SUMMER LEAGUE 2018

Catchall said:
I think Kelan Martin can be an NBA rotation player within a year. Like other rookies, he needs to chisel his body and increase his effort level, but his talent and confidence as a shooter is there. With a little work, he could be a better version of Moe Harkless, imo. He needs to rebound more though.
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He had 8 boards in the first game.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Idk, Niang and Long could make the team. Just got to cut Stockton and Jerebko.
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I know this will be unpopular here but really wish they wou!d do away with the Utah and Sacramento summer league and expand the Vegas one. Vegas summer league has every team. Better players. Make the Utah and Orlando summer league for g league players. Vegas has a lot of rookies and second year players.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
I know this will be unpopular here but really wish they wou!d do away with the Utah and Sacramento summer league and expand the Vegas one. Vegas summer league has every team. Better players. Make the Utah and Orlando summer league for g league players. Vegas has a lot of rookies and second year players.
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Yeah, you're an idiot.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
I know this will be unpopular here but really wish they wou!d do away with the Utah and Sacramento summer league and expand the Vegas one. Vegas summer league has every team. Better players. Make the Utah and Orlando summer league for g league players. Vegas has a lot of rookies and second year players.
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More dumb than unpopular.
 
Catchall said:
The way he's running the floor, scoring off pick-and-rolls, catching the ball on the move, and finishing inside with 2nd and 3rd-effort plays looks encouraging to me. He's not going to be an elite rim protector. He's just not that vertical a player. He runs with a high motor, rebounds well and has a knack for impacting plays. I think he's a rotation player, which is what he was drafted to be. His role would be similar to Enes Kanter, though he's a better defender while not being as polished offensively.

He needs another year to develop, imo. He's a bit behind Deyonta Davis in the development curve.
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Hope you are right about where he is headed but you are being extremely generous in your assessment. I am seeing very little of what you are describing. He is still young which is a very good thing.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
I know this will be unpopular here but really wish they wou!d do away with the Utah and Sacramento summer league and expand the Vegas one. Vegas summer league has every team. Better players. Make the Utah and Orlando summer league for g league players. Vegas has a lot of rookies and second year players.
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So just don't watch. All the teams participating in Sacramento and Utah go to Vegas. For some players, they get a chance to try out for two teams.
 
Catchall said:
I think Kelan Martin can be an NBA rotation player within a year. Like other rookies, he needs to chisel his body and increase his effort level, but his talent and confidence as a shooter is there. With a little work, he could be a better version of Moe Harkless, imo. He needs to rebound more though.
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I've liked Martin. He knows how to play the game and has some skill and a good shot... but... he needs to get in better shape and shed some weight.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He jus had 18 and 14 in limited minutes and was a +16 against a team that WS playing 3 NBA players, one whobeqs the 4th overall pick.
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like 12-14 of those were bunnies on dump offs. I have not been impressed with him at all even though he's putting up stats. I see nothing that translates well in an NBA game... maybe his offensive rebounding? I got to watch the second game too. His defensive instincts and awareness are terrible. I would not want us to give him ANY non-garbage time minutes if we want to win games.
 
stitches said:
like 12-14 of those were bunnies on dump offs. I have not been impressed with him at all even though he's putting up stats. I see nothing that translates well in an NBA game... maybe his offensive rebounding? I got to watch the second game too. His defensive instincts and awareness are terrible. I would not want us to give him ANY non-garbage time minutes if we want to win games.
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2 points is 2 points.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
He is also on Bagleys first NBA player. The dunk he had made my boy and I both jump out the seats. Huge fan of Wagner. Watched him grow up at UM since I'm a big ten man
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That dunk by Bagley was really nice ! Seemed like a good crowd there in Sac-Town.
 
stitches said:
like 12-14 of those were bunnies on dump offs. I have not been impressed with him at all even though he's putting up stats. I see nothing that translates well in an NBA game... maybe his offensive rebounding? I got to watch the second game too. His defensive instincts and awareness are terrible. I would not want us to give him ANY non-garbage time minutes if we want to win games.
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And you are definitely under rating him defensively. The takes on him are pretty embarrassing and over reactions to a few bad plays.

Again, he had some great defensive plays that go completely unnoticed because of one bad play at the end. People just want to harp on the bad stuff and write off the good stuff cuz it looks too easy.
 
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