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Spaniard said:
Thankfully, I think the Jazz are a lot higher on AB than a lot of posters on here. Wouldn't be surprised if he's back after his contract expires. At maybe a little less than what he was at. He looked pretty close to pre injury AB to me at the end of season.
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High on him? He can't even crack Quins rotation. There's no way AB's on the Jazz after next season.
 
Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Might even be able to figure out Harris and Ricky in the 41M range combined. I don't think we get a super duper star, more like middleton or Harris. I think there is a relatively good chance Harris becomes available during the season at a relative bargain. I think the Clips out performed their talent level last year and without DJ they slide. The also will likely be playing rookies where guys like Rivers were playing last year which will hurt them.

There are a few team on the "brink" of a tear down or remodel that may do so during the season. Ones I'm most interested in are the Wiz, Blazers, Clips, Cavs, Magic, Wolves. I expect the Bucks are good and if they let Parker/Bledsoe go they don't have a huge salary crunch and will retain Middleton.
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The question at this point is if that is worth it to "settle" for Harris because you need super duper stars. That team and core would be locked in. We'd need huge jumps internally.

Jazz may position themselves to just guarantee Favors if they couldn't get the star and retry next season. We have 19 and 20 with Mitch and O'Neale on insanely cheap deals to try and sign a star.
 
mellow said:
Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.
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CJ? I'd take CJ in a second.
 
mellow said:
Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.
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Dreadful contracts.... McCollum...?
 
MDAV28 said:
The question at this point is if that is worth it to "settle" for Harris because you need super duper stars. That team and core would be locked in. We'd need huge jumps internally.

Jazz may position themselves to just guarantee Favors if they couldn't get the star and retry next season. We have 19 and 20 with Mitch and O'Neale on insanely cheap deals to try and sign a star.
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True story... we kind of need to find the super duper stars in the draft imo... I just don't see Klay, KD or someone like that jumping ship. You have to get lucky to win it all. I do wonder if a team that is a defensive juggernaut and is solid at a lot of positions but only elite at a couple can get it done... but you kind of have to take it one step at a time. GS had a ton of luck getting where they are... and that luck can reverse.
 
mellow said:
Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.
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Utah is a surprisingly good trade partner for PDX. We have contracts to match, talent, can trade from a strength to address a weakness, tons of expiring deals, and all our own picks. Just a matter of knowing what they want. But if package around Ball and a 1st is enough to do that, you bet your sweet buns we should be all over that. Then again, this is per SAS, so take it for what you will.
 
Jingled said:
We keep hearing that the Millers would be willing to go into the luxury tax, maybe next summer is time to put their money where their mouth is. I think going into the tax for a season to keep Rubio and sign a big free agent would be more than worth it.
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It isn't about tax... its about space and cba mechanics.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Utah is a surprisingly good trade partner for PDX. We have contracts to match, talent, can trade from a strength to address a weakness, tons of expiring deals, and all our own picks. Just a matter of knowing what they want. But if package around Ball and a 1st is enough to do that, you bet your sweet buns we should be all over that. Then again, this is per SAS, so take it for what you will.
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SAS is trustworthy... he is pretty connected with rumors... it's all the other gas bagging he does that is lol worthy.
 
Jingled said:
We keep hearing that the Millers would be willing to go into the luxury tax, maybe next summer is time to put their money where their mouth is. I think going into the tax for a season to keep Rubio and sign a big free agent would be more than worth it.
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I agree with you Ron especially since it's my own money you're spending!
 
MDAV28 said:
Nah 15 million is like just a run of the mill starter. McCollum is an All-Star caliber guard.
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He's also a square peg in a round hole in Porty... there may be more to unlock with him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
True story... we kind of need to find the super duper stars in the draft imo... I just don't see Klay, KD or someone like that jumping ship. You have to get lucky to win it all. I do wonder if a team that is a defensive juggernaut and is solid at a lot of positions but only elite at a couple can get it done... but you kind of have to take it one step at a time. GS had a ton of luck getting where they are... and that luck can reverse.
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I don't think it's completely out of the question. It's kind of a Spurs-esque route, although they obviously had stars and supported by one of the top players ever in Duncan, a defensive identifying team with insane depth can have a shot and could get lucky if the more "talented" teams run into some injury concerns.

I think the Jazz first choice is obviously to sign a star, and will leave flexibility for that option. But if our window on Mitchell's rookie deal closes, recalibrating and building/upgrading a deep roster like they have now is a viable option.
 
MDAV28 said:
I don't think it's completely out of the question. It's kind of a Spurs-esque route, although they obviously had stars and supported by one of the top players ever in Duncan, a defensive identifying team with insane depth can have a shot and could get lucky if the more "talented" teams run into some injury concerns.

I think the Jazz first choice is obviously to sign a star, and will leave flexibility for that option. But if our window on Mitchell's rookie deal closes, recalibrating and building/upgrading a deep roster like they have now is a viable option.
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Agreed, Mitchell getting maxed out is a given, assuming everything holds. Utah already is Spurs-like in their style, so do what works. But if Utah can get a superstar without giving up a metric ton of things, Utah does that. The window is until Mitchell gets the max or we trade Gobert. Obviously, we genuinely are NOT doing the latter.
 
I did a very similar analysis the other day when trying to figure out positional needs for the last free agent signing. My concern is the Jazz are most vulnerable at point and there has been little discussion of this. Last the season despite the greatness of Gobert and DM in many ways success boiled down to Rubio. If Rubio played well the Jazz won. If Rubio plays OK the Jazz had a shot. If Rubio was out due to injury or played horrible the Jazz struggled. to me Neto as the back up is not the answer. This is how I see the minutes.

Rubio 33 Exum 15 Neto 0
Mitchell 33 Exum 3 Allen 12 Burks 0
Ingles 24 Thabo 6 Oneil 18
Favors 10 Crowder 24 Thabo 14 JJ 0
Gobert 30 Favors 18 Udoh 0 Bradley 0

Personally I would cut JJ and sign Niang or noone. Saves money in case we have a significant injury at point and have to do an emergency call up at point mid year. If the front office believes Bradley is capable of being back up center for 12-20 minutes if Rudy gets injured then I would cut Udoh. If there was an Injury at point it would force Mitchell to Point is that what they want? There is plenty of depth at 2, 3 and 4 to interchange players without picking up anyone else. Ingles, and Oneil can play 2,3,4 Jazz are basically 500k below the tax line that is playing it awfully close in the event of injury at the point or in the event of trade opportunities.
 
Spaniard said:
Thankfully, I think the Jazz are a lot higher on AB than a lot of posters on here. Wouldn't be surprised if he's back after his contract expires. At maybe a little less than what he was at. He looked pretty close to pre injury AB to me at the end of season.
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Jazzfanz have been including Burks in trades for 5 years. Burks is the ultimate team guy. Rarely playec down the stretch, nary a complaint, and when they needed offense at the most important time of the season they went to Burks and he delivered. Jazz love Burks. Its why Jazzfanz have been wrong for 5 years and will continue to be.
 
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