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2018 All-Time NBA Draft FINALS: Grayson's Hands vs. Ellis269

Which team would win in a 7-game series?


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Great side Ellis. I still dont like Giannis at PG but youve built a great side.

No matter what I tried in our sim I could never come out in front, anything close and MJ would close out like the GOAT he is.

Congrats on our matchup and on what is looks like being this years champ.

Commiserations WC and thanks again for running the draft.

Must say I loved my team this year, thought it would be hard to beat but knew Ellis269, Wes and Tfivas (who imo had the best team this year) were going to be tough.

Just for ***** and giggles ill run the entire comp through the sim and see how it shakes out,
 
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Great side Ellis. I still dont like Giannis at PG but youve built a great side.

No matter what I tried in our sim I could never come out in front, anything close and MJ would close out like the GOAT he is.

Congrats on our matchup and on what is looks like being this years champ.

Commiserations WC and thanks again for running the draft.

Must say I loved my team this year, thought it would be hard to beat but knew Ellis269 and Wes (who imo had the best team this year) were going to be tough.

Just for ***** and giggles ill run the entire comp through the sim and see how it shakes out,
Felt my team was grossly disrespected
 
Does the simulation take into account spacing and shooting?

Cos I traded Wilkins to get Stojakovic (a significant downgrade in talent) purely because of a lack of spacing.
 
Does the simulation take into account spacing and shooting?

Cos I traded Wilkins to get Stojakovic (a significant downgrade in talent) purely because of a lack of spacing.

No one in today’s game would pick Stojakovic over Wilkins. Wilkins is all time great, Stojakovic is just an allstar


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No one in today’s game would pick Stojakovic over Wilkins. Wilkins is all time great, Stojakovic is just an allstar


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Well you said Wilkins sucked and made it seemed like he can't shoot a 3 even if his life was depended on it.
 
Well you said Wilkins sucked and made it seemed like he can't shoot a 3 even if his life was depended on it.
It’s not my fault you don’t know your nba history. I’m pretty sure I never said he sucks, just not a shooter. He did have at least one prime year where he shot 34% not great but it’ll do.
 
It’s not my fault you don’t know your nba history. I’m pretty sure I never said he sucks, just not a shooter. He did have at least one prime year where he shot 34% not great but it’ll do.

Yeah but you sorta rallied everyone against Wilkins (and me) saying he's a bad shooter even when I brought up stats that clearly showed he was a better 3pt shooter than the likes of Gary Payton, et al.
 
Gut goes Grayson’s Hands. Gut must feel that Graysons’s Hands’s team has the higher sum of athleticism, skill, and savvy.
 
I gave the nod to Grayson's Hands because I felt that when the chips are down, with the exception of MJ, padded Hands' guys have better IQ and are less likely to make a bone-headed play. I don't entirely trust Giannis, Nique or Kemp to not screw something up. But it's literally down to that last factor for me. Just way too close.
 
Great job @Grayson's Hands for putting a fantastic team together. Like I said, I’ve got nothing bad to say about the team you assembled. Loved the move to get Malone, Payton and Wade. Thought Grant Hill was a damn steal where you got him and Dikembe Mutumbo is one of my favorite players of all time. Liked the Petrovic and Parish picks for your bench.

My strategy was to just put as much talent as I possibly could around MJ. Lucked into getting Dominique after my top SF targets (Paul George and James Worthy) both went off the board during a particularly ugly stretch of the draft for me. I want to thank @Thee jazz fan for making One Love doubt his pick and allow me to swoop in there and solve a major headache. The timing was just right for me to make that work out.

I originally drafted Giannis to play PF, but one of the problems with getting MJ in this thing is that it’s hard to put talent around him since you have to wait until 32/33 before you can get your next two starters and 64/65 before adding your final two starters. Plus, you just don’t have the firepower to make any decent trades.

Drafting a positional versatile player like the Greek Freak early allowed me to just go BPA and it became clear early on that I was not going to get the kind of PG that I wanted to round out my starting lineup with at 64. I almost had an opportunity to trade for a HOF point guard in a way similar to how I got Dominique Wilkins (due to buyer’s remorse), but I was reluctant to pull the trigger on that deal because of some team fit and personality issues. In the end, I decided to shift Giannis and draft Kemp (who was a steal where I got him) and just go huge and athletic for my starting unit.

Love my bench, except that I was sad to not get Nate Thurmond this time - I think I’ve drafted him every year I’ve done this until this year. Had to draft Kemp, Gervin and Frazier where I did, I couldn’t pull off a trade to move up for either Hondo or Nate the Great.

Again, you did a great job of putting together a fantastic team. I was pretty lucky with a lot of my picks and I’m glad that my team looked a lot like I was hoping it would at the end of it all. I’m looking forward to the Current Players Draft (and/or another All Time Draft without active players).

Great job running things. I think it went off pretty smoothly overall. You deserve a lot of credit for that.
 
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Good matchup @Grayson's Hands. I really liked the setup and synergy of your team. . . but I think mine just had too much athleticism and offensive firepower.

Great draft this year. I want to thank everyone who voted for me.

Now on to the next one.
 
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