2018 Annual JazzFanz Current Players NBA Draft

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

You mean my pick

No, I was planning on getting him with the 44th pick

 

[Rgiss]

Would you call Favors a bum? Aside from 3pt shooting their numbers are similar.

Dammit thee don't name undrafted players

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[Rgiss]

Going with Devin Booker.
Offensively:
Simmons
Booker
Beal
______
Capela

Defensively:
Booker
Beal
Simmons
________
Capela

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

First, in playoff basketball, 2/3 of my frontcourt are elite defenders (LeBron's regular season stats are from his pacing). So Jokic is complemented much better than in Denver, where he is surrounded by mediocrity excluding Milsap. Horford matches up with the best offensive big, and, as you say, "a huge counter to the best centers"

Second, even if there is a defensive liability with Jokic, the offensive combination of the three will much more than offset any deficit. If a team goes small, I will have a counter from my bench.

Third, the "Jokic is a terrible defender" is a popular, misguided and exaggerated take, where people fail to take a balanced look at stats and blame Jokic for Denver's defensive woes. He is, in fact, an average defender.

Player/ Year/ DRPM/ DRPM Rank among Centers

Jokic
....2018/+1.95/ 21rst
....2017/ +2.29/19th
....2016/ +3.61/ 4rth

Last 3 years Defensive +/-: +3.1 +2.3 +2.1



2018 DRPM has him above the likes of DeAndre, Dwight, M Gasol, Drummond, Adams, WCStein, etc.

If he is badly hurting his team on the floor, there is NO WAY he puts up these stats DRPM exposes the KATs Okafors & Kanters of the world

People see his playing close to the floor and assume that he is ineffective. He is an average defender.

If you have KAT in your top 3, you must be completely ignoring KAT's obviously pitiful defense.

KAT
....2018/.044/ 63rd
....2017/-1.41/ 68th
....2016/-0.22/ 49th

KATs a better scorer and I think he can become a good defender eventually.

Jokic is just flat out awful on defense.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Dammit thee don't name undrafted players

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Yes because a Jazz forum doesn't know who derrick favors is.

 

[Rgiss]

Yes because a Jazz forum doesn't know who derrick favors is.

Yes but he may slip to the back of their minds with big names like Gordon Hayward, Ricky Rubio, and Joe Ingles on the board

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[The Midnight]

Yes but he may slip to the back of their minds with big names like Gordon Hayward, Ricky Rubio, and Joe Ingles on the board

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True.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Yes but he may slip to the back of their minds with big names like Gordon Hayward, Ricky Rubio, and Joe Ingles on the board

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Don’t forget Exum, he could realize his potential finally.


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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

True.

You’re on the clock


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[silesian]

KATs a better scorer and I think he can become a good defender eventually.

Yes KAT is a better scorer but Jokic is a better all-around offensive player.

KAT has physical skills to be better defensively. But he seems to have the Kanter/ Jabari mentality. Not sure why I'd believe his mindset would change 4 years into his career.

 

[Hotdog]

No, I was planning on getting him with the 44th pick

Ya, my pick

 

[Rgiss]

Don’t forget Exum, he could realize his potential finally.


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Break out as in play an entire season or..?

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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Break out as in play an entire season or..?

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He’s done that already


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[Rgiss]

Would you call Favors a bum? Aside from 3pt shooting their numbers are similar.

One is an elite ball handler, playmaker, shooter, and defender, and the other is decent to good at those at best

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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Ya, my pick

There was a time I felt bad that I ruined your trade, but you’ve gone on and on like the baby you are, so I just don’t care anymore.


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[The Midnight]

You’re on the clock


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I've agreed to @elan_prodigy 's trade offer, just waiting on him to confirm.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I've agreed to @elan_prodigy 's trade offer, just waiting on him to confirm.

Now we have to wait even longer.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

One is an elite ball handler, playmaker, shooter, and defender, and the other is decent to good at those at best

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What’s your point? My point is that while their numbers numbers are similar, Horford is better and Grayson’s hand wouldn’t call Favors a bum.


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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I've agreed to @elan_prodigy 's trade offer, just waiting on him to confirm.

You’re not going to post the trade?


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[The Midnight]

You’re not going to post the trade?


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I'd rather wait for him to get back to me first.