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Thread where we get way too hyped about Donovan Mitchell off-season workouts

Handlogten's Heros said:
Fell into an internet rabbit hole today... found that the pull-up three above the break is an offensive cheat code and likely one of the main reasons the rockets offense is so good is the amount of pull-up threes they can get... and that one of the main characteristics of impactful offensive is players is pull-up threes. DM gets a fair amount up and if he can get to 37-38 percent we will be contend for titles.

On a down note I think one of the issues with our offense is Ricky is bad and shoots very few pull-up threes compared to other primary ball handlers.

It is less about the actual shot and more about the threat of the shot imo. It opens up stuff.

So if he adds just one thing... I hope it is the pull-up unassisted 3 pt shot... not just the above the break three.
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I mean, the thing about Rickey is that people are still loathe to contest his three point shot. If he keeps making them, that will change and open up things for everyone else. We don't really need him to take a pull up jumper, not when he gets free set shots. He just needs to be a threat to hit the open, assisted 3. Then we get to run Faves at the 4 and break things.
 
framer said:
I mean, the thing about Rickey is that people are still loathe to contest his three point shot. If he keeps making them, that will change and open up things for everyone else. We don't really need him to take a pull up jumper, not when he gets free set shots. He just needs to be a threat to hit the open, assisted 3. Then we get to run Faves at the 4 and break things.
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I think he’s good on catch and shoot 3s... I don’t think defenses can ignore him out there.

Not necessarily like a pull-up 3 on the break, but an unassisted three when defenders drop on the PnR would be fantastic. I think it’s one of the main reasons the offense can bog down.

Was just a thought I had while down in a rabbit hole. Guys like Steph, Harden, Kemba, CP3, Lou, Dame seem to have the most effect on offense and it’s something they all have in common. We may get enough of the effect by playing Ricky more off ball and letting DM and Ingles create more... Ingles shoots the pull-up pretty well... he just has to be willing to fire it.

Outside of the PF position the Ricky/DM duo is the thing I’m most intrigued by... not sure if DM plays with more of a SG long term or more of a traditional PG. Ricky brings a lot to the table and doesn’t have to be a primary ball handler to be effective imo... but he will have to improve at a few things if he is operating as a traditional point guard and is the long term solution.
 
fishonjazz said:
That team was also lacking in lip licking. No Merry Burksmas back in them days
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This team is the most likeable team in nba history... not just jazz history...

Except prolly Grayson Allen... but I can see myself loving him if he goes from cheap to an agitator like Joe... can’t have crying face or the Duke slap the floor move.
 
addictionary said:
While Russell Westbrook's explosiveness reminds me of a rabid pitbull, Donovan Mitchell reminds me of a creature that has the atleticism of a pitbull and feelings of a golden retreiver. Dude is like a super hero. I need to see him make some mistakes before I can believe that he is human.
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It's news to me that putbulls are athletic.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think he’s good on catch and shoot 3s... I don’t think defenses can ignore him out there.

Not necessarily like a pull-up 3 on the break, but an unassisted three when defenders drop on the PnR would be fantastic. I think it’s one of the main reasons the offense can bog down.

Was just a thought I had while down in a rabbit hole. Guys like Steph, Harden, Kemba, CP3, Lou, Dame seem to have the most effect on offense and it’s something they all have in common. We may get enough of the effect by playing Ricky more off ball and letting DM and Ingles create more... Ingles shoots the pull-up pretty well... he just has to be willing to fire it.

Outside of the PF position the Ricky/DM duo is the thing I’m most intrigued by... not sure if DM plays with more of a SG long term or more of a traditional PG. Ricky brings a lot to the table and doesn’t have to be a primary ball handler to be effective imo... but he will have to improve at a few things if he is operating as a traditional point guard and is the long term solution.
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It's anecdotal, but the Jazz seem more effective with Mitchell handling the ball in the half court over Rubio. In the games where Ingles and Rubio effectively space the floor, Mitchell is pretty unstoppable, unless you have a Gobert or send multiple bodies. Teams simply leave Ingles and Rubio. Ingles always makes them pay for that. When Rubio can hit those uncontested threes, it is almost always a Jazz win. At some point they need to forced to make the decision to leave Favors. That is when Favors gets to use his midrange and eat offensive boards like candy.

It would be great to have another guy who can drive the ball like Mitchell, but I suspect that is what we extended Exum for. He's the guy we really need to develop as a pull up threat.
 
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