Is there still a firing range? I need practice hitting targets moving that fast and jumping through the air. It’s also a bonus that they wear all that protective gear. Really makes me pick my spot.
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Is there still a firing range? I need practice hitting targets moving that fast and jumping through the air. It’s also a bonus that they wear all that protective gear. Really makes me pick my spot.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Not sure who you are talking to, but I have no love affair with Trump. I did not vote for him, even though I am in favor of some of his policies. I have always believed that the people who are overstating his issues are doing him more good than harm.
Also, it's news to me that Hitler was not a douche.
You mean you didn't vote for him because you didn't vote.
I wouldn't refer to Hitler as a douche. I would refer to him as a psychopath. We can discuss the level to which Trump is a psychopath, but I mostly think of him as a douche with severe narcissism, etc.
Joe Bagadonuts
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I always vote, and Hitler was a douche.
So you're saying you'll sell your soul for some policies you agree with. Or what are you saying? You're either in with Trump or you aren't. If you are in with him you excuse his behavior. Do you excuse his behavior?
Or did you come to this thread and throw out a straw man argument to caution us about doing ourselves more harm than good?
Joe Bagadonuts
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Good grief.
Good grief. Don't start personal **** and you won't look like an idiot.
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At least it gives White House housekeepers time to clean up the mess in the White House toilets.
That’s a stupid thing to say. It’s all or nothing? You’re better than that. At least you used to be.
All I'm saying is that his behavior is totally inexcusable. The ends don't justify the means. And if you support him you are a despicable person.
Douchebag K
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I have no time for Trump but this attitude is probably part of what helped him get elected and probably re-elected
You really think half the American population are despicable people ? I’d hazard a guess that a lot of people voted for him despite what a douche he is because they prefer his policies as a whole to the alternative. Pretty arrogant to label every one of them as despicable
It's not half. Trump's numbers are dwindling. But yes, at this point if you support Trump you're a despicable person. The guy is a nightmare on so many levels. There is no chance he wins again. None. He probably won't even make it through two more years.
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Douchebag K
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You’d think so for sure. But there was pretty much no chance he would win to begin with ?
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They voted for him because:
1. Either they're politically unaware or didn't believe he could be this bad
2. Because they hated Hillary
The Thriller
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Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million votes despite:
1. Russians hacking the DNC server and releasing embarrassing information at various periods during the campaign. These released emails changed narratives and gave trump vital cover for his campaign.
2. A Russian disinformation blitz on social media that we still are investigating. Cambridge Analytica took advantage of Facebook and its customer’s personal information in ways that aren’t supposed to be possible anymore.
3. The Democratic candidate being one of the most least liked and exciting candidate in recent memory. I can’t remember a candidate so polarizing. Even during the DNC convention it looked like Bernie’s crowd might state a coup. This depressed turnout and increased votes for trump and green parties.
Do people really think he’ll be re-elected? He’s got a 40 percent approval rating right now. He’s electrified the DNC and has increased voter turnout across the nation. In special elections since his inauguration democrats are winning by +18 percent pts from the previous congressional elections. Trump has been a weight around the GOP’s neck, not an asset.
If you’re still with trashy trump after all this, I’m sorry, but you are a trashy person.
idestroyedthetoilet
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Remember when he had 1% chance to win the primaries and they were all squawking that he didn't even want to win and would quit if he did?
This doubling and tripling and umpteening wont end.
Archie Moses
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I'm not in with Trump by any means, but I can't deny the good he's done too.
Just like I can't deny the bad he's done too.
The Thriller
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That’s not what polls showed. Hillary was the favorite to win the popular vote. And she did win the popular vote. Hillary was favored to win. But polls that took into consideration the EC also gave trump a fighting chance.
We still don’t know the full extent of Russian influence on 2016.
But I think it’s safe to say that Trump won’t ever enjoy the turnout he had in 2016 nor will democrat turnout be so depressed.
Trump’s been the best thing that has happened in decades to energize democrats, moderates, and decent people.
The Thriller
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Shouldn’t decency, civil rights, racism, democratic norms, foreign policy, law and order, concern for the environment, ethics and corruption, and respect for the first amendment matter more than the stock market? The economy was humming along just fine for years before he came along. All he did was give out a few executive orders deregulating finance and environmental regulations and give a tax cut that drove up the deficit and gave CEOs stock buybacks. most of his “base” hasn’t benefitted from the stock market or tax cut at all. They’re not seeing any rise in wages. Hell, they’re seeing their health care premiums skyrocket, social security threatened due to deficits, and jobs disappear with further investment in automation. They’re making less in real wages today than before he became pres.
At this point, claiming that Trump’s done some good is like claiming that John Amechi wasn’t a bust signing and that we focus too much on the negative. After all, he kept a lot of benches warm.
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