A bunch of Biyombo game footage videos

[vslice02]

The bigger point is I've been racking my brain trying to think of the last guy coming into the league who I was absolutely sure would be an impact defensive center. I know there must have been somebody before Duncan, maybe Okafor, but that's how rare guys like him are.

Yeah, if you just look at 7-footers who you project as shotblockers - you'll end up with alot of busts but when you look at "defensive centers who can block shots as well as move their feet" the list is alot smaller (Joakim Noah, Sean Williams, Okafor).

 

[billyshelby]

Yeah, if you just look at 7-footers who you project as shotblockers - you'll end up with alot of busts but when you look at "defensive centers who can block shots as well as move their feet" the list is alot smaller (Joakim Noah, Sean Williams, Okafor).

Forgot Noah. And you're observation about shotblockers is spot on. It's easy to project college guys who should match up at the next level and will block shots. But it's not often you see a center who will match up AND be a force in team defense.

 

[NUMBERICA]

This. I'm mostly still on the Biyombo bandwagon, but Numberica, since you're the most enthusiastic about Biyombo, please address this.

That's what happens when you play hard. In any given draft, #12 and on is a crapshoot, so if you get a couple of decent years out of him before he blows it then cool. Also, some people are just averse to injury and I'm hoping he's one of them. To this point, there have been no problems, and a guy that can explode off of one foot like that is an absolute marvel (considering his base weight as well). Well worth the risk.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Biyombo was exposed in a workout.

1) Yes, so "exposed". Because people thought they were going to get finesse and jump shots out of the guy.
2) Workouts are more important than actual games.
3) There aren't about 3 or 4 threads discussing what you just brought up.

Off to bed.

 

[Archie Moses]

1) Yes, so "exposed". Because people thought they were going to get finesse and jump shots out of the guy.
2) Workouts are more important than actual games.
3) There aren't about 3 or 4 threads discussing what you just brought up.

Off to bed.

1. Apparently it was more than jumpshots, guy.
2. Who said that, homer?
3. Um, OK. So I can't share my thoughts on him, mediator?

 

[Revolution 9]

Is he really a Center though? My only concern is that he is a defensive PF, and that is a bit less attractive.

 

[prodigy]

DraftExpress...

One NBA exec put it best: “If you liked Biyombo going into today you are going to be set aside the weaknesses he showed and realize that setting couldn't have been any worse for him. The guy is not a jump-shooter, and no one is going to draft him to be one. You need to see through that. But if you came in here with question marks about him you surely came away with plenty more things to worry about. All in all, people who liked him will continue to, and those who don't will as well.”

I don't know how it really hurts him, if you can afford to draft a defensive guy with limited offensive ability (like the jazz can) you go for it, otherwise you stay away from him.

Since most of the teams offenses in the lottery suck there is a chance that Biyombo falls but how far. I think if the jazz don't take him he goes 8th to Detroit, seems like a likely destination for a decent offensive team that needs a defensive presence to get the city excited again. If not than 11th to Golden State who we know has plenty of offense already. I wouldn't plan on him being available at 12.

Jazz trading down to 7th with the Kings,who would probably want to grab Knight before the Raptors do, is a possibility if they really want Biyombo and aren't in love with taking Knight at #3.

There is always a risk of trading down though, don't know if another teams trades up and snatches the guy you wanted from your grasp, than you are screwed

I just don't know if there is a clear guy among Kanter/Knight/Walker that the jazz should take at 3, which is why bismack isn't that big of a reach at 3 to me.

If the jazz had 1st or 2nd pick it would be easy draft Irving or Williams. But at 3rd there should be heavily consideration for a guy like biymobo.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

DraftExpress...

Since most of the teams offenses in the lottery suck there is a chance that Biyombo falls but how far. I think if the jazz don't take him he goes 8th to Detroit, seems like a likely destination for a decent offensive team that needs a defensive presence to get the city excited again. If not than 11th to Golden State who we know has plenty of offense already. I wouldn't plan on him being available at 12.

Wouldn't plan on it, but wouldn't trade up for it, either. GSW drafted a defensive guy last year in Udoh, and have Biedrins on the front line as well. It'd be a hard sell for their front offense to use two lottos in the last two years on defensive big men.

 

[prodigy]

Yeah I just remembered about Udoh. Detroit at 8 still seems pretty solid, Greg Monroe is strictly a offensive player that could fit well alongside Biyombo.

Who else would they take? DraftEpress has them taking Veesley. I'd think they'd rather have Biyombo.

 

[prodigy]

all his best youtube highlights in one mix...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3kIS9ecnC0

 

[NAOS]

go to 2:13. On the offensive end, that's all he needs to do for me.

HAVOC on the defensive end. ****ing awesome. Love at first sight.

 

[franklin]

Darft me pleazzzzzeeeee!!!

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

here are some excerpts from Ford (espn insider):

On the court, he disappointed. Biyombo decided to skip the game and drill portion of the camp, and instead did a one-on-none workout in front of 100 or so NBA scouts and GMs... Biyombo looked understandably nervous and it seemed to affect his game. Much of the workout focused on his perimeter skills -- a major weakness of Biyombo. He missed roughly 75 to 80 percent of the shots he took in this portion of the workout....

In fact, several NBA sources who saw his workouts in Spain said he looked better when NBA teams were allowed to ask him to do specific big man drills... As one GM summed it up, "Bismack Biyombo played one-against-none today … and he lost."... I've also heard a number of reports from NBA teams that he looked much better in Spain and knocked it out of the park in his interviews. I had the chance to sit down with him for almost an hour and I see the appeal. He's smart, articulate and has a really amazing story...

As for his draft stock, I still think he goes somewhere between 8 and 20. That is, admittedly, a pretty wide range with just 10 days to go before the draft... But his physical talents along with his production in the ACB this year suggest, at the very minimum, he'll have a long career in the league as a defensive stopper in the paint.

https://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=6656055

 

[green]

I wouldn't care if the Jazz took him at 12. Not my first choice, but I could care less anyways. 12 is most likely going to be a bust anyways. If the Jazz took him at three, or if Knight/Irving is available and they took Biyombo, then the Jazz are freaking crazy.

 

[vslice02]

here are some excerpts from Ford (espn insider):
As one GM summed it up, "Bismack Biyombo played one-against-none today … and he lost."

HAHA that's funny. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm not terribly upset his draft stock and falling and would still love to grab him at 12 though.

 

[Archie Moses]

I wouldn't care if the Jazz took him at 12. Not my first choice, but I could care less anyways. 12 is most likely going to be a bust anyways. If the Jazz took him at three, or if Knight/Irving is available and they took Biyombo, then the Jazz are freaking crazy.

This, rookie.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

HAHA that's funny. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm not terribly upset his draft stock and falling and would still love to grab him at 12 though.

I'm thrilled that his stock is dropping. If he'd done well in that workout he'd be going at or near the top of the draft. It doesn't concern me (or surprise me) that he couldn't hit jumpers with 100 execs staring at him. If Detroit doesn't take him at 8 I think he might be there for us at 12. What a steal that would be! If anybody thought they were drafting him for outside shooting they're crazy so it doesn't concern me that he failed that portion of the exam. His shooting mechanics aren't too bad, btw. I hope none of the GM's drafting ahead us agree with me, though.

 

[prodigy]

Derrick Williams falling to 3 is probably more likely than Biyombo falling to 12

Even if Detroit passes on him you never know who trades for the 9-11 picks

We've seen it happen before to the jazz with Ty Lawson

 

[vegas]

It's probably less of a stretch than the Eaton comparison, though still a poor one, but I just keep thinking how bad I wanted Thabeet (the last huge upside defensive big in the lottery) and then I remind myself where the guy is now... I just don't have a good feeling about Biyombo.

 

[Chris]

I can't say that I've seen a lot about this guy that I like. Defense is important, especially when it comes to building a championship contender, but that seems to be the only legitimate thing Bismack seems to bring to the table. But, how long until he's got 2 quick fouls and has to head back to the bench? Where is the offense, outside of dunks? And when he gets hacked inside like many seem to think he will, how often will he hit his free throws? I see a lot more Hasheem Thabeet than Serge Ibaka when I look at this kid.

Reminds me of a kid who started at Providence College when I was a student there: N'Dongo N'Diaye or some spelling like that, who was this project out of Senegal. Nice kid -- I spoke to him a few times. He spoke five languages, was taking high end math classes and all that, was 7'1" and like 190 lbs. Long arms, was supposed to be a rebounder and a defensive presence, and was supposed to have all this upside. Kid was a disaster and left long before we would have graduated. I have no idea what he did after he left PC.

Given the state of the Jazz right now, with projects like Derrick Favors, Fes, Hayward, and Ante Tomic, I just think that long-term potential is not a luxury we can afford with our draft picks this year. The priority in this draft has to be getting players who can play significant minutes and contribute solidly, off the bench or otherwise, by mid-season if at all possible.