Proposed Rollback of Transgender Protections
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William Clyde Allen III, or at least he was arrested for it.
Except, Allen's not a liberal.
Red
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The president has said of the media that they are "the enemy of the people". An adversarial press has been a constant in our republic since the administration of George Washington. In Trump's interpretation left leaning journalism=enemy of the people, simply because they criticize him. They are not the enemy of the people, but let him keep saying it, and reporters liked Jim Acosta of CNN will keep getting the "cut your throat" motion from attendees at Trump rallies, when he attempts to simply engage them in conversation.
The president, within the past two weeks, has referred to Democrats as "evil people". Really? Is he serious? Sure he is, and his words matter.
The president is turning anybody who disagrees with him, and the opposition party, into the enemies of the republic. He is the president of the United States. The blame lies with him. It starts right at the top. Is this what we expect from our president? That he label the opposition party "evil people", that he call our free press "the enemy of the people"?
Is he really the first president to ever have to deal with an adversarial press? Isn't it about time he grew up?! Does he not know words matter, his words matter? Isn't it about time he assumed some responsibility for his own words? Is that really too much for the citizens of this country to expect of the man?
The president, within the past two weeks, has referred to Democrats as "evil people". Really? Is he serious? Sure he is, and his words matter.
The president is turning anybody who disagrees with him, and the opposition party, into the enemies of the republic. He is the president of the United States. The blame lies with him. It starts right at the top. Is this what we expect from our president? That he label the opposition party "evil people", that he call our free press "the enemy of the people"?
Is he really the first president to ever have to deal with an adversarial press? Isn't it about time he grew up?! Does he not know words matter, his words matter? Isn't it about time he assumed some responsibility for his own words? Is that really too much for the citizens of this country to expect of the man?
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Scaring voters into voting for them I'd imagine. Soros fits that 'evil globalist pulling strings from behind the scenes' archetype that the right wing likes to trot out around election time.
Archie Moses
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I put "to a certain degree" meaning I don't think Trump has ever encouraged mailing pipe bombs to those who recieved them or am I missing something?
He definitely encourages idiots though.
Zombie
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That's fair enough. But it's worth pointing out you didn't use that same kind of minimizing language when talking about the left.
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That's the brand name and the important ingredient is glyphosate. By the way, I had a running debate with a PhD in Botany from the U of Fl who was a shill for Monsanto and was exposed by the NY Times. So tell me what you know that makes you think glyphosate is harmless when most of the scientists in Europe don't agree? You mean that glyphosate and other pesticides to which GMOs are bred to withstand don't kill all other life forms in the soil and destroy the topsoil? Guess you're one of those who think that organic farming is a crock? If you don't, then you shouldn't be calling me stupid.
Archie Moses
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I was talking about the president not the left.
I can provide plenty of examples of the left and right (members of those parties) encouraging some pretty nasty, hateful, violent and sickening ****.
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Not sure I understand your comment. Who is the stooge for Monsanto -- certainly not me. RandyforRubio claims to be a farmer who has studied Botany; a lot of farmers do use Roundup and Monsanto seeds -- he said he doesn't, so I don't understand why he's calling me stupid if he doesn't use it. It's really puzzling and discouraging that so many people on this site start calling people names over topics they know little about, not to say he doesn't know anything but before he starts calling names, he should explain why my comment is stupid. It gets tiresome to have to deal with it. It's either I stop posting or start reporting people to the mods.
RandyForRubio
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1) It’s Roundup Ready, not Ready Roundup. Believe me, I know the brand name, and I’m quite familiar with glyphosate.
2) I can tell you if Roundup did kill all activity in the soil, we wouldn’t have nearly as many soil pathogens (diseases caused by pathogens in the soil) as we do.
3) How, exactly, does Roundup destroy the top soil? Because I’ve been using Roundup for decades, and my soil health keeps on increasing. So that doesn’t quite add up.
4) I don’t think organic is a complete crock. I know the majority of what is labeled as organic is not actually organic, but it’s fine as a niche in agriculture. You could never replace all of conventional agriculture with organic.
RandyForRubio
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Right. My degree, and many years in the field means I know little about the subject compared to you. You, who can’t distinguish between Roundup Ready (a gene inputted into crops) and Roundup (a chemical). Yes, you’re quite brilliant.
For your sake, I will repeat. I do not use Roundup Ready crops, I do use Roundup.
Idiot.
However, among the leaders of the political parties (as opposed to some random members), Trump stands almost alone in such encouragement (there are a couple of other Republicans).
The Thriller
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You’re right.
The funny thing about Soros, isn’t he 93 or 94 years old? Yet, somehow he’s at the top of his cognitive game apparently. He’s never been so influential!
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Why do you have to be such an a-hole? To be honest, I didn't know there was a difference between the two. It's really a matter of semantics, in any case. The point is that Roundup Ready crops are the GMO crops that withstand the Roundup or the glyphosate in them. You say your soil is fine. But that isn't what I've read about GMOs and the soil. The thing is that now we are realizing that a lot of pathogens are actually good for us -- beneficial bacteria and harmful bacteria. The theory that I was exposed to says that the Roundup kills both the good and bad and actually erodes the topsoil. You say that isn't true?
RandyForRubio
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Oh. The difference between a plant and a chemical is semantics? Then certainly the difference between Donovan Mitchell and a basketball is just semantics.
Now, I’m not sure what you’ve read. I’m fairly certain you know diddly squat about agriculture. Pathogens that cause diseases in plants generally don’t effect humans in regards to eating them. It effects the yield, the quality, etc. Now if Roundup were to actually kill those (what a ludicrous statement btw, where’s the damn research?!), farmers would be growing even more Roundup Ready crops. I mean, that would be awesome.
I would seriously love to hear how Roundup erodes the soil. Please, tell me how a chemical that I put on at 24 oz an acre erodes soil. Seriously, two coke cans applied over an entire acre, and that amount erodes the soil? Tell me how Roundup erodes the soil and I’ll consider trying to have an actual conversation about this with you.
Wake up Eenie.
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It kills all the life in the soil other than the GMO. The GMO is bred to resist Roundup so high doses of it are applied that kill the rest of the life in the soil. At least that's how it has been explained to me. There is a film called "Symphony of the Soil" that explores this and demonstrates how the cultivation of GMOs leads to topsoil erosion.
RandyForRubio
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Ok. You’re not answering my very basic question.
Not going to waste my time.
Btw, everything you said about Roundup in that paragraph was wrong. Roundup is a contact herbicide that effects the plant, not the soil. That’s why I can spray Roundup, and then three days later plant wheat seed and not have any of it be damaged.