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Zombie
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Was wondering who that was
Red
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The Guardian article linked below provides a sampling of opinions of Trump supporters prior to last night's rally in North Carolina, and reveals the basics of the alternate reality developing around the MAGA Bomber incident. I know Fox News had been promoting this fiction prior to his arrest. Not sure if they still are promoting it. I also wonder what % of the overall electorate, particularly Trump fans, are going to buy into it?
Will this develop as one of the most notable fictions in our Post Truth era? IMO, this is one of the most damaging results of the effort by Trump propoganda machines, like Fox, this development, that is, of fictional narratives to replace truth. And each has had a conspiracy theory component at its heart. Appropriate given how much Trump himself has been a Conspiracy Theorist-in-Chief. I believe we will have a significant % of the electorate firmly enveloped by this latest conspiracy interpretation of current events.
“To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.”
― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
This is a dangerous development in a democracy, IMHO. Nothing good can come of our transition into a Post Truth landscape in the political arena. And this certainly plays into the development of a cult of personality around the person of Trump. Once again, at last night's rally, he portrayed himself as the victim in the bombing incidents. A remarkable lie.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/26/trump-supporters-sceptical-about-pipe-bomb-arrest
I will not underestimate the potential for damage to our political life that can develop with a leader like Trump.
“Fascists despised the small truths of daily existence, loved slogans that resonated like a new religion, and preferred creative myths to history or journalism. They used new media, which at the time was radio, to create a drumbeat of propaganda that aroused feelings before people had time to ascertain facts. And now, as then, many people confused faith in a hugely flawed leader with the truth about the world we all share. Post-truth is pre-fascism.”
― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
Will this develop as one of the most notable fictions in our Post Truth era? IMO, this is one of the most damaging results of the effort by Trump propoganda machines, like Fox, this development, that is, of fictional narratives to replace truth. And each has had a conspiracy theory component at its heart. Appropriate given how much Trump himself has been a Conspiracy Theorist-in-Chief. I believe we will have a significant % of the electorate firmly enveloped by this latest conspiracy interpretation of current events.
“To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.”
― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
This is a dangerous development in a democracy, IMHO. Nothing good can come of our transition into a Post Truth landscape in the political arena. And this certainly plays into the development of a cult of personality around the person of Trump. Once again, at last night's rally, he portrayed himself as the victim in the bombing incidents. A remarkable lie.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/26/trump-supporters-sceptical-about-pipe-bomb-arrest
I will not underestimate the potential for damage to our political life that can develop with a leader like Trump.
“Fascists despised the small truths of daily existence, loved slogans that resonated like a new religion, and preferred creative myths to history or journalism. They used new media, which at the time was radio, to create a drumbeat of propaganda that aroused feelings before people had time to ascertain facts. And now, as then, many people confused faith in a hugely flawed leader with the truth about the world we all share. Post-truth is pre-fascism.”
― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century
Archie Moses
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Literally, no one has 1) said anything about the color of the guy's skin but you 2) said that this wasn't a terrorist attack because it was.
Yet One Brow and Zombie and Thriller be liking that **** faster than this guy got caught.
Oh, btw, the guy is Native American and Hispanic. *Edit* Filipino
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Archie Moses
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Are you talking about Jazzfanz or like your friends on Facebook? I haven't seen anyone deny this guy is a terrorist.
Alfalfa
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Archie Moses
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His van has a sticker that says "Native Americans for Trump."
I don't know what the guy is, but it's cool and trendy to make it about white though or no?
Stars Fan
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Archie Moses
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??? It wasn't a terrorist attack then? We've all talked about he's a white dude?
Yeah, wth, Moses.
Archie Moses
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Lol. I just googled it. The guy is Filipino. These ****ing white guys...
I don't give a **** what race you are, if you do this type of things, you're the same thing to me - a pos. I'm just giggly that Dala made it about a dude's skin color.
What a world we live in.
I don't give a **** what race you are, if you do this type of things, you're the same thing to me - a pos. I'm just giggly that Dala made it about a dude's skin color.
What a world we live in.
Alfalfa
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Half Filipino. It's his white half that committed the terrorism.
Hotdog
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I dont know where you are getting your "facts". The guy was definitely white. Trump, Fox news, Evil... All the ingredients.
Zombie
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Facebook and Twitter, no one here.
Archie Moses
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Beeping white people.
Archie Moses
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He's Filipino. I assumed he was Native American because of the stickers on his vans alluding to him being Native or Seminole.
The point I'm making is Dala comes in says he hasn't read the thread, makes a claim that people are brushing this guy's actions under the rug because the simpleton mentality that he's white. That post then gets liked by the left that actually think that ALL people with different political views are represented by this dude.
I want to say that this is hilarious, but it's ****ing sad, man. These people are walking mirrors of Dutch and beat off to the idea that Trump is the problem or white people to everything. I type this as someone who cringes at Trump, but I'm not an SJW all star like them.
"This guy is a good white guy and not a terrorist."
Lmao
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Archie Moses
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Who are you friends with, dude? I'd say 70% of my friends on Facebook are white, conservative people (Trunpers) from Utah and haven't seen anyone post anything remotely to what you suggest.
Zombie
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I don't understand why you are so incredulous that some people are buying the false flag narrative that's being peddled by people like Limbaugh D'Souza etc
Archie Moses
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They're out there for sure. Many of them are baby boomers who grew up in a different era. I'm capable of distinguishing them as dying minority.
Zombie
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Yeah I don't use Facebook for anything other than contact with extended family, it's a really ****** platform, so yeah they fit the demo.