Jimmer workout observer's reaction
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vslice02
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What happens is there's not alot of news coming out - then suddenly you hear a repot that someone outplayed someone else - and people overreact and move a player up entire tiers on their draft board when they probably should only be moved up 1-2 places.
I think any talk of Jimmer at 3 is clearly an overreaction. Pre-draft workouts are very useful - but we also saw this kid play college basketball for 4 years. Don't think 1 workout overcomes all the doubts scouts on Jimmer based off his play in real games.
MattMan
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You mean like everything after pick #2? Kanter is horribly unknown, then the combine comes and then he's sitting at #3 on countless mock drafts.
Welcome to the draft. Almost everything this year is fluid, and despite what you say, just 1 workout can move someone up or down multiple spots.
BENTLEY
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If the draft were today maybe Fredette goes earlier than expected. By the time draft day comes people will probably check themselves and the draft will probably go similar to what he mocks say.
The only team that might take Fredette is Sacramento. But I don't know that they will - some of the stuff I've been reading says their biggest need is SF and if Kawai's there they should take him.
The only team that might take Fredette is Sacramento. But I don't know that they will - some of the stuff I've been reading says their biggest need is SF and if Kawai's there they should take him.
Guitaro
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I really think some of you have hangups about Jimmer that just don't matter in the NBA...
...what I love about the kid is his demeanor and positive attitude.....
read more in my own post:
Jimmer (I was a skeptic as well)
...what I love about the kid is his demeanor and positive attitude.....
read more in my own post:
Jimmer (I was a skeptic as well)
JohnnyClutch
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I'd take Jimmer over Knight or Walker. The concerns seem answered. He's 2x the offensive player of either one. No denying that. If he were from UConn or Kentucky he'd go 1st.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Double dog wow. Wtf are you smoking??????
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green
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There is a reason Jimmer didn't play at UConn or Kentucky. He isn't as good. Calipari and Calhoun both watched Jimmer play when he was in NY. They were both aware of the Jimmer. And yet they both took other point guards (Evans, Rose, Wall) and they made the right choices.
How hard is it to comprehend this? Keep hiding behind your strawman arguments. If the Jazz decide to go PG at 3 Jimmer Fredette is a reasonable pick. So called draft experts (and internet wanna be experts) have been wrong before, and I think he was dramatically undervalued. Go watch the post Jimmer workout videos of Corbin and KOC, both look like they are trying to stop smirking.......we've been surprised before. I'm not saying this will happen, I actually think they will take Kanter if available, but I can see a Jimmer at 3 scenario. Draft night is gonna be sweet---
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You are naive....or just stupid as they come if you believe jimmer gets a whiff at 3.
JohnnyClutch
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On what basis do you believe Walker or Knight should be picked ahead of him? "Wow" is not a rational argument. Neither is the even worse and bordering on the dumbest damned thing I've ever heard anyone say "Calipari and Calhoun both watched Jimmer play when he was in [high school] in NY [4 years ago] and they didn't take him."
Are they a fraction quicker in a flat out sprint. Check! Wow, you're onto something. You might be right! Sprinting could just be the single most important trait a basketball player could hope to aspire to have.
Are they laterally quicker. Nope. Jimmer's quicker.
Are they better shooters? Not no, but hell no. NOT IN THE SAME LEAGUE.
Are they better defenders? Hard to say, but I think the question of whether Jimmer can adequately defend has been answered.
Are they better passers? Walker sure didn't show it in the workout. Jimmer was better.
Are they tougher mentally? No.
Do they have better handles on the basketball? No.
Are they better team-mates? Do they have more "it factor" than Jimmer? NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Are they black? Wow. You got me there. Racists.
Maybe they're better rebounders! Maybe they're better shot blockers!
Your biases and prejudices are blinding you, not mine blinding me. I couldn't care less about BYU basketball. I only watched them in the tournament. I'm a Jazz fan exclusively when it comes to basketball. And I like this kid and want him on our team.
I LOVE our front line right now just the way it is.
With Jefferson, Favors, and Memo at the 4/5, Millsap and AK at the 3, Heyward and #12 at the 2, and Harris and Fredette at the point. That's an awesome team who will compete this year and for many years to come.
Man. I really hope not!!!!!
BENTLEY
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Not even close? Kemba oozes with "it factor." Did you watch him in the tourney? Kemba's "it factor" took his team to the championship. In spite of his size his it factor is what's making him a projected lottery pick.
I admit Fredette has some of this "it factor" too though. I like Fredette. But I don't want any PG at pick 3 unless Irving somehow falls. Then I might trade him to the highest bidder.
JohnnyClutch
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Kemba's closer in it factor. I was thinking mostly Knight. Point made. I'd say Jimmer is higher than Kemba though.
True seems like Calipari just wants one and done guys. Looking back you wouldnt take a 4 year guy who won national player of the year over a one and done guy? Crazy.