Jazz vs Raptors Game THREAD

[416Klawzz]

Good to see you guys show love to Burks. He deserves it, he gets alot of hate around here.

 

[fishonjazz]

Mitchell
Burks
Ingles
Crowder
Gobert

Start next game. Grow a pair Quin.

This

 

[jope]

missed the game (thankfully), but we seriously lost a game in which we shot 41 (!) free throws? insane times we live in...

 

[mellow]

What the ever-loving **** happened to our shooting? Did Ingles lose a finger? Or a hand?

No, but he clearly lost patience. His body language looked checked out, frustrated, and blaming. Joe has been rock solid, if he is shaken Jazz got BIG issues.

With about 1-minute left in the game Donovan walked down the bench high-fiving each teammate. It said a lot about him, his teammates glowers said a lot about them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Last year we played like dirt cuz Rudy was out... this year we are just playing like dirt. DM being out sucks, but guess what... we don't win that one even if DM plays.

the myth of Favs 3 point shot has not materialized... shocking.... the myth of Ricky Rubio turning into Jason Kidd has not materialized... shocking.

I'm close to tank the eff out of this B mode... @infection I need your unwavering confidence... where are you?

 

[SoUjazzfan]

My guess is we see a line up change, but not necessarily one we want. Joe's finger looked nasty last night. I know they said he's available but I can't imagine playing for a while after that!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Last year we played like dirt cuz Rudy was out... this year we are just playing like dirt. DM being out sucks, but guess what... we don't win that one even if DM plays.

the myth of Favs 3 point shot has not materialized... shocking.... the myth of Ricky Rubio turning into Jason Kidd has not materialized... shocking.

I'm close to tank the eff out of this B mode... @infection I need your unwavering confidence... where are you?

Favors is actually shooting a better percentage on corner 3's than Exum.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Favors is actually shooting a better percentage on corner 3's than Exum.

Is that good?

Favs has been fine imo... it isn't his fault, but we just don't utilize what he does well. Putting him in the corner allows his guy to help backside without much consequence... not like he's getting the shot off quick or will drive past on a blow by.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My guess is we see a line up change, but not necessarily one we want. Joe's finger looked nasty last night. I know they said he's available but I can't imagine playing for a while after that!

I dislocated my finger like that. It doesn't hurt as much as you might think (freaked me out though). He will be able to immobilize it and play through... though his shooting will be affected.

When I did mine I played a week later. The biggest issues were one handed long passes, catching hard passes, and then just not wanting to deflect the ball with it. It will also likely linger... so I expect him to play but will be taped up for weeks.

He shouldn't have been out there at that point. Quin should have pulled a Pop and just got the guys out. We were down 20+.

 

[SoUjazzfan]

I dislocated my finger like that. It doesn't hurt as much as you might think (freaked me out though). He will be able to immobilize it and play through... though his shooting will be affected.

When I did mine I played a week later. The biggest issues were one handed long passes, catching hard passes, and then just not wanting to deflect the ball with it. It will also likely linger... so I expect him to play but will be taped up for weeks.

He shouldn't have been out there at that point. Quin should have pulled a Pop and just got the guys out. We were down 20+.

That's a bit more comforting, it looked brutal. It will be interesting to see just how much it affects his shooting.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That's a bit more comforting, it looked brutal. It will be interesting to see just how much it affects his shooting.

I got my ring finger... his may have been middle finger. Shooting was fine for me other than the ball slipping a bit occasionally as I shoot off the dribble. The tape or bracing may have to cover more of his fingerpad which might be troublesome. He should be fine.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is that good?

Favs has been fine imo... it isn't his fault, but we just don't utilize what he does well. Putting him in the corner allows his guy to help backside without much consequence... not like he's getting the shot off quick or will drive past on a blow by.

No, I'm just saying how bad Exum has been at everything that isnt getting into the paint.

And outside of results, I think Favors 3pt shot has actually looked better than Exum's.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No, I'm just saying how bad Exum has been at everything that isnt getting into the paint.

And outside of results, I think Favors 3pt shot has actually looked better than Exum's.

He's getting to the free throw line, has avoided turnovers (had one really bad one last night though), has played decent defense, throws good lob passes.

He has stayed on the court... he's meeting my overall expectations. I know some thought he'd do better but overall I'm okay with what hes given so far.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He's getting to the free throw line, has avoided turnovers (had one really bad one last night though), has played decent defense, throws good lob passes.

He has stayed on the court... he's meeting my overall expectations. I know some thought he'd do better but overall I'm okay with what hes given so far.

He doesnt turn it over because he doesnt do anything. I just wish he would make any attempt at expanding his game. Right now he's looking like an 11 million dollar 7th man.

If this is all Exum is, he is certainly a useful player, but I don't see how he gets better if he doesnt actively try to add to his game or step outside his very limited comfort zone.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He doesnt turn it over because he doesnt do anything. I just wish he would make any attempt at expanding his game. Right now he's looking like an 11 million dollar 7th man.

If this is all Exum is, he is certainly a useful player, but I don't see how he gets better if he doesnt actively try to add to his game or step outside his very limited comfort zone.

9.6 base... kind of what 6th-7th men get... especially ones with some upside. Better than a 15M turnover machine with low volume scoring on low efficiency.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

9.6 base... kind of what 6th-7th men get... especially ones with some upside. Better than a 15M turnover machine with low volume scoring on low efficiency.

Yeah but my point is that I dont know if he has upside if he isnt trying to expand his game.

And I'd take Rubio over him still, because he tries to do things. We know what Rubio's upside performance is. I still don't know what Exum's is or if he will ever actually do it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah but my point is that I dont know if he has upside if he isnt trying to expand his game.

And I'd take Rubio over him still, because he tries to do things. We know what Rubio's upside performance is. I still don't know what Exum's is or if he will ever actually do it.

He's getting better. He attacks with confidence and his finishing has gotten so much better. His game might not be very nuanced yet, but he's making progress imo. He gets to the paint a lot and has a stellar FT attempt rate... that is really valuable. 4.5 Ast per 36m ain't bad in our system.

It's 10 games... what were you hoping for? I'm sorry he isn't trying enough stuff for you... not everyone gets the amount of leash that Ricky does to try stuff.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He's getting better. He attacks with confidence and his finishing has gotten so much better. His game might not be very nuanced yet, but he's making progress imo. He gets to the paint a lot and has a stellar FT attempt rate... that is really valuable. 4.5 Ast per 36m ain't bad in our system.

It's 10 games... what were you hoping for? I'm sorry he isn't trying enough stuff for you... not everyone gets the amount of leash that Ricky does to try stuff.

The leash stuff is so inaccurate. Exum's leash is shorter because he doesnt try to do stuff more than the other way around.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The leash stuff is so inaccurate. Exum's leash is shorter because he doesnt try to do stuff more than the other way around.

Okay... I'm sure Dante would get 30 minutes a night if he was turning it over at the rate Ricky is... he'd just tell Quin he's trying stuff.

Exum has not been the solution... but he ain't the problem either.

 

[mellow]

Might as well let Exum try it. The Jazz are paying him a pile and if Ricky walks in July Exum is the only thing close to a starting pg on the jazz roster. If he plays well Jazz know they can let Ricky walk, if Exum fails then at least they know they have to shop for something.