Let's say that the Cavs do take Irving @ #1. Minnesota, who really is in dire need of a center to place next to Kevin Love, decides to draft Kanter @ #2. This would leave the Jazz with a choice between Williams and Knight. I would guess that we take Williams @ #3. Now, here comes the twist: If the Jazz really want Jimmer or Kemba Walker (assuming that Knight is off the board by #12) and they don't think that either of them will be available @ #12, they then trade the #12 pick and next year's Golden State pick to move up to get one of them. I know people will not want to trade next year's pick, but there is some downside to it. The pick is top 8 protected, which would not be the best scenario. Also, what if Golden State makes the playoffs next year? The pick would be utterly useless then. Might as well trade it for value now.
Here is my Jazz draft plan.
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Joe Bagadonuts
Well-Known Member
Me too. Thank Jimmer the Jello Slurpers came through yet again.
I think Jimmer would be gone to Sacramento @ #7.. (apparently the Maloofs really pushed for Jimmer to work out with them)
So no, I wouldn't trade #12 and next year's pick for Kemba..
So no, I wouldn't trade #12 and next year's pick for Kemba..
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Good observation. Of course they also just need bodies to work out against the upper tier players. And the fringe 1st-rounders are more than willing to get added exposure. Create some buzz with a few good workouts. solidify that 1st-round status and get a guaranteed deal.
I'm sure KOC has been working all the angles - up, down, sideways, trading picks, players, etc. But we all know his MO; we likely won't hear even a rumor unless/until a deal goes down. Since he's been here, only the aborted AK trade has been leaked, and he was mad as heck about that one.
margodydek
Well-Known Member
I think the OP is suggesting that you trade the #12 & GS's pick to Sacramento for Jimmer.
Fishsticks
Banned
OMFG so damn funny!
If Kings are willing to do that? I would do it.
I doubt they would though...
The Kings seems to have that "I don't care what people think - we'll pick the guy we like"
- Tyreke: questionable jump shot
- Counsins: questionable attitude
Fishsticks
Banned
Yes and you think that is a good idea as well I take it?
This just in.. KINGS might be trading for Andre Miller and pick a SF @ #7:
https://www.blazersedge.com/2011/6/17/2229595/givony-sacramento-kings-interested-in-blazers-g-andre-miller
This draft is getting really interesting.....
https://www.blazersedge.com/2011/6/17/2229595/givony-sacramento-kings-interested-in-blazers-g-andre-miller
This draft is getting really interesting.....
How about an earlier pick, Plus salary dump for the GS pick?
MattMan
Active Member
Way to go, it wasn't about Jimmer until you brought it up.
MattMan
Active Member
No kidding man. On one hand it sucks that the year the Jazz get two lottery picks it's much weaker than normal, but man this is a fluid draft. I've never seen so many conflicting reports from "credible" draft reporters. I love it when the experts actually have to do work and put their ***** on the line instead of just following the media herd.
Thursday can't get here soon enough!
I think this is just the first draft any of us have followed this in depth. I didn't even pay much attention to the draft last year.
jimmy eat jazz
Well-Known Member
I don't see the Jazz trading draft picks to get Jimmer. Now is they could somehow con someone to take Miles off our hands for Jimmer I'm down with that.
Jimmer couldn't possibly be worse than Miles, could he?
BENTLEY
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't trade the GS pick especially because I think Jimmer might still be there. However if the Kings take him at 7 and Kemba is off the board then I would look moving down and taking Reggie Jackson from Boston College. There might even be a chance to take Thompson at 12 or Brooks. The Jazz might just have to settle for Harris and Watson for another year. I would be ok with that but I would also look at finding a solid PG in FA/trade.
BENTLEY
Well-Known Member
This.
Not wise to fall in love with any one player. Even if you really feel they're gonna be amazing (in spite of many disagreeing with you). I like Fredette but Jackson looks really good too. Jenkins too. There are decent gambles at PG throughout the draft.
And I like Brooks as well. He's a decent gamble at SG. Then there's Biyombo. He might fall to 12 - I'd definitely take that gamble there. No need to bail on decent assets to gamble on Fredette (he'll probably be there at 12 anyway).
But the gamble I want most of all is the Golden State pick. Don't be pessimistic -- bailing on the pick so that we can avoid losing.
Discipline. Grow a pair. Yeah, it's gambling - but does anyone think GS is good enough to make the playoffs next year? I don't think so. Do you think they'll be bottom 7 (making the pick protected and not the Jazz')? They have to be worse than some pretty bad teams. And they have a new crew there trying to make them a winning team, with Jerry West helping out. I don't think they'll be bottom 7. Hopefully they'll be close but I don't think they'll be that close. But given the depth of the 2012 draft that should be just fine. Jazz will get a really good wing next year. It's a decent gamble and worth it. I like the odds. I wanna play more than just that one hand in the 2012 pot. Maybe one of these rumored Harris/Millsap trades will get the Jazz another 2012 hand to play.