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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

infection said:
Though I know you're not saying those deals will get done, you don't think there are deals more likely than Love? Is it possible for this franchise to take a glimpse at Love's contract and have any desire at all to move for him?

$24M this year at age 30.
$29M next year at age 31.
$31M 2020-2021 at age 32.
$31M 2021-2022 at age 33.
$29M 2022-2023 at age 34.
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No ****ing way I trade for him.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
They will exit the road-trip 20-21 then win 11 of the next 14 games before February 7th. So they will have a record of 31-24 at the deadline.
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I think that is about the same record I had the jazz at when the all start break comes around.

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fishonjazz said:
I think that is about the same record I had the jazz at when the all start break comes around.

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Just checked.
I had the jazz at 32-25. Cy has us at 31-24.
Something doesn't add up but we are definitely on the same page winning percentage wise (close enough anyway)

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This season is different than last... our conference had 4 teams openly tanking and the Laker who aren't good. This year there is one team kinda tanking... and 14 good teams. We need to win the games against the garbage teams and can't have an injury or let down. I don't see the run we had last year happening, we might not need that big of a run but this year's climb will be harder than last year's imo. This year's team seems less consistent which worries me... think we are a little more susceptible to having a bad performance in a must win scenario.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
This season is different than last... our conference had 4 teams openly tanking and the Laker who aren't good. This year there is one team kinda tanking... and 14 good teams. We need to win the games against the garbage teams and can't have an injury or let down. I don't see the run we had last year happening, we might not need that big of a run but this year's climb will be harder than last year's imo. This year's team seems less consistent which worries me... think we are a little more susceptible to having a bad performance in a must win scenario.
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I agree. To just assume we are going to go on another magical run is pretty foolish. Despite pretty much zero injuries, we have been completely played out of the gym on numerous occasions.

And regardless of if we go on a positive run and get 5 or 6 games over .500, does that mean we have to stay put? Do we really think this team is a contender or should we make at least a couple minor moves to improve the team?
 
LoPo said:
I agree. To just assume we are going to go on another magical run is pretty foolish. Despite pretty much zero injuries, we have been completely played out of the gym on numerous occasions.

And regardless of if we go on a positive run and get 5 or 6 games over .500, does that mean we have to stay put? Do we really think this team is a contender or should we make at least a couple minor moves to improve the team?
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No one is really assuming, it's making educated guesses based off the remaining schedule before ASB. The Jazz are going to get to play 12 of their last 16 games at home before ASB, with a lot of them coming against inferior opponents. The Jazz should absolutely be able to take care of business against those teams.

Also I don't think this team as constructed is a championship contending team unless there's dramatic improvement across the board starting with Mitchell post ASB, but a couple of minor moves isn't going to change that either. If the trade deadline is cold on sellers I'd rather just let the team have another crack as constructed and then use draft night/the offseason to make some major moves with all the cap space we'll have, and really think about trying to contend for the following season with a hopefully improved Mitchell, a potential upgrade somewhere on the roster, etc.
 
Sandman822 said:
No one is really assuming, it's making educated guesses based off the remaining schedule before ASB. The Jazz are going to get to play 12 of their last 16 games at home before ASB, with a lot of them coming against inferior opponents. The Jazz should absolutely be able to take care of business against those teams.

Also I don't think this team as constructed is a championship contending team unless there's dramatic improvement across the board starting with Mitchell post ASB, but a couple of minor moves isn't going to change that either. If the trade deadline is cold on sellers I'd rather just let the team have another crack as constructed and then use draft night/the offseason to make some major moves with all the cap space we'll have, and really think about trying to contend for the following season with a hopefully improved Mitchell, a potential upgrade somewhere on the roster, etc.
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I think we definitely win a bunch more games... just might not be gifted a game like the Memphis one last year where they tanked it away... or a couple of the GS ones where they didn't really try. If we have a couple more of the Atlanta type instances where we lose a game we absolutely should win then it will sting more this year because we have more good teams we have to pass in the standings. I think the way this current iteration is playing could leave us more susceptible to those disappointments.

I'm also worried that Sacramento has another move to make. I think the Wiz get desperate and dump Ariza for salary relief and Sacramento gets him for Koufos or similar expirings. I think the Clips are the only current playoff team I could see having a big decline (last year Minny and Clips faded). If Lakers have a healthy Lebron they are likely in the playoffs... we barely squeaked in and had some help and injury luck down the stretch. I see a very real chance we are the 47-48 win team left out of the playoffs... I don't think its likely but we aren't close to a sure thing.
 


Not a massive deal but since Justin Holiday was on one of those articles as a guy the Jazz could target figured it's relevant.
 
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Not a massive deal but since Justin Holiday was on one of those articles as a guy the Jazz could target figured it's relevant.
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I mentioned Justin Holiday, I personally like him more than O'Neale for the reason that he actually shoots 3s, let alone makes them. Not a deal that moves the needle but depth at players that won't hurt you in the playoffs is important.
 
Sandman822 said:


Not a massive deal but since Justin Holiday was on one of those articles as a guy the Jazz could target figured it's relevant.
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This is a smart deal by Memphis very similar to our Korver deal. They don't have a 1st round pick and have less assets than we do so they should just go for it.

Another trade target down. Wayne Ellington or Bazemore is probably up next...
 
MDAV28 said:
I mentioned Justin Holiday, I personally like him more than O'Neale for the reason that he actually shoots 3s, let alone makes them. Not a deal that moves the needle but depth at players that won't hurt you in the playoffs is important.
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Solid move for Memphis.
 
Sandman822 said:


Wonder if the Bulls just decide to cut bait with Jabari. Would be a dumb move but their entire season has been full of dumb moves so wouldn't shock me.
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they need to wait until trade deadline though... might need the salary fodder.
 
Sandman822 said:


Wonder if the Bulls just decide to cut bait with Jabari. Would be a dumb move but their entire season has been full of dumb moves so wouldn't shock me.
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they could cut Cam Payne or Blakenly and likely never regret it. Hell maybe even Denzel Valentine... he's broken apparently.
 
Actually I forgot that they could just waive one of those guys so they probably just waive Marshon Brooks and call it a day
 
Sandman822 said:
Actually I forgot that they could just waive one of those guys so they probably just waive Marshon Brooks and call it a day
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Poor Marshon Brooks. The guy must feel great for being the weak link which broke the Oubre deal and now easy waive trade fodder for the Bulls trade.
 
I've been completely against trading for Love but lately I'm starting to come around to the idea, mainly because he's one of the only targets either through trade or free agency that I think is actually realistic and getable.
 
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