Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Mark my words. If we get him that will be Utah’s big move
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Jabari Parker
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Mark my words. If we get him that will be Utah’s big move
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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What do you think he'll get for his next contract?
Sandman822
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I would be absolutely shocked if any NBA team even pays him 50% of his current contract. What's the market for a PF that has torn his ACL twice and doesn't bother to keep himself in shape, openly declares he isn't going to bother playing defense so good luck trying to run him at SF or at C, and has seemingly regressed as a scorer which is essentially his only real NBA skill?
Being the #2 OVR pick can only get you so far, and his Bulls season has been an absolute disaster. He couldn't play a lick of SF since he was out of shape and lost that spot to Justin Holiday, and then he lost the starting PF job to Bobby Portis. Once Markannen came back he got completely dumpstered from the rotation, and the only reason why he got minutes against the Jazz yesterday was because Portis got injured in the Warriors game the night before.
I think he's worth taking a flyer on for the minimum but I think you're severely over-estimating the market for him. Maybe a team with spare capspace throws a 1 year deal at him for $10mil+ after striking out on FAs to give them a nice expiring deal for the trade deadline and have the small chance he returns to form, but for a guy that was happy to go to the Bucks originally because he would be close to home in Chicago, then got the opportunity to play for his home team and come into the season out of shape, play awfully, and lose both the starting SF and starting PF jobs to Justin Holiday and Bobby Portis respectively... there aren't going to be many suitors for him in general, let alone a suitor that's willing to pay him.
LoPo
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For the season, locker room, continuity, I go with Favors.
For the way the playoffs is played, I do think Jabari could be more an asset than Favors. Against GS/Houston types, Favors doesn't stay on the floor because he doesn't have an elite skill. If Jabari can be our upgraded version of Joe Johnson, he could be a major asset when we need a bucket.
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For the way the playoffs is played, I do think Jabari could be more an asset than Favors. Against GS/Houston types, Favors doesn't stay on the floor because he doesn't have an elite skill. If Jabari can be our upgraded version of Joe Johnson, he could be a major asset when we need a bucket.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Of all those different ways you described how his career has evolved or de-evolved, why would it be worth it to sign him even if he did come cheap. And it totally is the jazz MO to make a signing like him and call it an offseason. Remember how the jazz called Burks coming back from injury an offseason. Lol.
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Sandman822
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Because sometimes players just need the right environment to get themselves back on track. The Bulls are completely toxic right now between their FO, Jim Boylan, and their mismatch of players. If the Jazz think they could get about 80% of what Jabari was doing with the Bucks then he adds another player who can shoot off the bench and create his own shot, and if worse comes to worse you can just waive a minimum guy. There would be other teams that have a similar though process with Jabari (Rockets for example would love to take a flyer on him and just waive him if it doesn't work out), but there aren't any teams that are going to pay him big money unless a despearate team throws a big 1 yr deal at him after Plans A - Z fail.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Parker fits our team like that glove fit O.J. in his trial. He can’t shoot, and doesn’t play defense. So, he doesn’t play defense, and his offense has regressed, and we struggle at times to score. He’s no better than some cheap role players we could add it makes no sense what so ever to bring him on. Also, he’s going to be asking go for a none cheap one year deal most likely.
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Sandman822
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So your point is basically Jabari sucks and everyone knows it yet he's going to want a big payday?
I don't really disagree there are better role players the Jazz could target but if Jabari is your 15th roster spot on a minimum I don't see the problem with taking a chance on him.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Holy hell, you think he’s signing to a minimum contract to be our 15th player. He will become a toxic in the locker room.
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The Thriller
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Jabari sucks
Sandman822
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I don't see how thinking he's going to sign a minimum contract is any more outrageous than you saying that someone is going to pay him big money but sure.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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He got a 20million dollar contract!! I promise someone will give him a 1 year at at least 15million on the hopes he just needs a change of environment, he got that last year, and needs another because he’s been banished by a 10 damn win team. That alone should tell you he doesn’t have that jazz dna.
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Jack Strop
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Pretty evident Chicago was trying to sell Utah management on Parker last night.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Thank god you were able to find the time to log in and tell us what we already dealing know.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Playing him would not be how I would’ve chosen to convince the jazz to give me assets for him. Lol
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Jack Strop
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Guess you didn't watch the game. Parker scored 11 pts and had 7 rebounds on 50% shooting in 18 mins. Not that it matters much in a small sample size but he was +3. Contrast that with Ice Cold Crowder who was 1-13 in 24 mins. I think he showed he can still be a decent rotation player. Can he resurrect his career and be a good starter? Not sure. But he's been a much better shooter than Crowder will ever be, although neither have been shooting 3's that well this year. Jae is a chucker who needs to shoot less. Outside of his last season with Boston, Crowder has generally been <33% on his 3's. I know Utah is loyal, but Crowder is not a player Jazz should be relying on.
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Sandman822
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There's a huge difference though between Parker's offseason last year where he had clearly shown a ton of potential with the Bucks but had some lockerroom issues, his two ACL injuries, and the apparent fit issue between him and Giannis who both effectively play the same position but Giannis is a top 5 NBA talent while Parker had potential but hadn't proved anything. There was a lot of talk about Jabari just not being a good fit for the Bucks behind Giannis and needed somewhere where he could control the ball more. Bulls had a ton of cap space and figured that he might be worth the $20 mil price tag if he plays back to his potential he had shown with the Bucks while their team were bad and actively tanking, and bringing in former #2 ovr pick who's also a hometown kid and has wanted to play for the Bulls from the beginning could end up being another nice piece with LaVine/Markannen/WCJ if he had a return to form.
In the upcoming offseason Parker will now have a Bulls season under his belt where he wildly underperformed, showed little to no interest in keeping himself in shape despite playing for the team he wanted to play for since being drafted, has regressed statistically across the board as a scorer (which again is his only known NBA trait), and came out within a week or two after getting signed to his big deal and basically said "I'm paid to score not play defense", but then was bad at both. He made it painfully clear that he's unable to play the SF position, and he is a complete liability to have him anchor your defense at C, so his versatility positionally in a league that is becoming more and more positionless is also a glaring drawback.
All of those things combined with the fact that he can't even get into the rotation on the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA means he isn't going to get paid unless in the scenario I've mentioned previously with a desperate team giving him money on a 1 yr deal, but even then he isn't going to get $15 mil. I can't think of a single team that would look at his current Bulls season where he lost starting roles to Justin Holiday and Bobby Portis and can't even crack the rotation without injuries because he's out of shape and does very little to help a team win and think "oh wow I think we could get the most out of this guy who's had two ACL injuries, is out of shape, and has regressed statistically doing the only thing he's menat to be good at, let's pay him starters money and hope it works out!".
Sandman822
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No he only got to play because Portis got injured in the Warriors game the night before. Guaranteed he doens't play if Portis was available and healthy.
