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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Kyoto said:
I'm not fully convinced that the Pelicans are trading Holiday. The way it sounded is that Lonzo Ball said he didnt want to be traded to a team with a starting PG.

That tells me one of a few things:

1. Nothing
2. Ball was talked about being traded, but the Pelicans have plans on keeping Holiday.
3. The Pelicans/Lakers are exploring a 3rd team to take Ball

There were rumblings about other GMs around the league condemning the Lakers because LeBron and AD share the same agent. A lot of GMs dont like that and probably dont want to participate in helping the Lakers in this trade. Which makes any deal for AD difficult because the Pelicans plan on keeping Holiday.
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Don't let the established PG comments fool you, NOLA would absolutely play Jrue at SG if Ball was to end up there and the organisation really likes Ball from all reports (e.g. Rondo/Jrue last year). The Ball camp (Lavar) is just using that as an excuse for not wanting Ball to end up in NOLA, the real reason is that Lonzo simply doesn't want to play/live in New Orleans and would prefer a bigger market instead which is why a team like Chicago got brought up.
 
MVP said:
You are basically accusing basketball reference being wrong and saying you are right. Like seriously you watched every Jazz game this season where Thabo played and think you are right?
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I am right. I don't know how BR's algorithm works, but its clearly flawed.

Again, look at Ingles.
 



This **** is so stupid that we dont go after Jabari. This guy is a dominant offensive force who is a no bigger defensive liability than 90% of the league.

Jim Boylen is a **** coach who wont make it in this league. Him bench Jabari means nothing. Just means he is a jackass. There is no way Jabari is the worst player on that team. In fact he is is the best player probably. This might be the dumbest situation I have ever seen in the league.
 
Ironankle said:
I really thought we had to make a trade for conley or anybody else but at the end... I was thinking... and when I saw Rudy crying, I changed my mind. Why? Just because I realise how human our current team is. I was thinking about Derrick and Ricky, and I really love them even if I understood we have to upgrade. These guys have a such love for each other and for the jazz. Remember the cohesion, the passion, the love against okc playoff, all together like just one man. Remember all the love derrick give to us in his tv it's and when he was back to Rudy against green. I love these guys and now again they will support Rudy as their bro. Guys, we know what we are losing but not what we are going to have. We are a small market and have players like derrick or Ricky is something we forget to appreciate.
I don't know I'm just thinking and I just noticed how much I love these guys together...

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I love them too as people, and players, but they are limited. Ricky is inconsistent, and Favs has limited range. Answer those short comings and we have a contender. I really like Jrue, and Niko would stretch the floor and make things click on offense so much better. So, while I would hate to see either of them go, I would make that trade in a heart beat.
 
Sandman822 said:
Don't let the established PG comments fool you, NOLA would absolutely play Jrue at SG if Ball was to end up there and the organisation really likes Ball from all reports (e.g. Rondo/Jrue last year). The Ball camp (Lavar) is just using that as an excuse for not wanting Ball to end up in NOLA, the real reason is that Lonzo simply doesn't want to play/live in New Orleans and would prefer a bigger market instead which is why a team like Chicago got brought up.
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Makes sense. Probably me just overthinking things
 
I think Locke made a comment a few days ago about maybe the Jazz could make a trade to be worse this year, but better in a few years. I couldn’t figure out who he was talking about. I now wonder if it is Lonzo Ball. He has trashed NOLA, so maybe if he get traded for Davis they would move Ball on to another team rather than deal with the headache of the Ball family.
 
Ironankle said:
I really thought we had to make a trade for conley or anybody else but at the end... I was thinking... and when I saw Rudy crying, I changed my mind. Why? Just because I realise how human our current team is. I was thinking about Derrick and Ricky, and I really love them even if I understood we have to upgrade. These guys have a such love for each other and for the jazz. Remember the cohesion, the passion, the love against okc playoff, all together like just one man. Remember all the love derrick give to us in his tv it's and when he was back to Rudy against green. I love these guys and now again they will support Rudy as their bro. Guys, we know what we are losing but not what we are going to have. We are a small market and have players like derrick or Ricky is something we forget to appreciate.
I don't know I'm just thinking and I just noticed how much I love these guys together...

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It's weird because seeing Rudy cry and show how much passion he has for the game gave me the opposite impression. I've had the feeling for weeks that DL would probably stand pat because of how great the chemistry of the team is. But after seeing Rudy's passion for accolades, recognition and team success I get the feeling that DL might be thinking he's got to take swings and avoid complacency.
 
Ironankle said:
I really thought we had to make a trade for conley or anybody else but at the end... I was thinking... and when I saw Rudy crying, I changed my mind. Why? Just because I realise how human our current team is. I was thinking about Derrick and Ricky, and I really love them even if I understood we have to upgrade. These guys have a such love for each other and for the jazz. Remember the cohesion, the passion, the love against okc playoff, all together like just one man. Remember all the love derrick give to us in his tv it's and when he was back to Rudy against green. I love these guys and now again they will support Rudy as their bro. Guys, we know what we are losing but not what we are going to have. We are a small market and have players like derrick or Ricky is something we forget to appreciate.
I don't know I'm just thinking and I just noticed how much I love these guys together...

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I love Rubio too and I'd love for him to be that guy that we need but he's not.
 
checkbookdoc said:
I think Locke made a comment a few days ago about maybe the Jazz could make a trade to be worse this year, but better in a few years. I couldn’t figure out who he was talking about. I now wonder if it is Lonzo Ball. He has trashed NOLA, so maybe if he get traded for Davis they would move Ball on to another team rather than deal with the headache of the Ball family.
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You mean like a Rubio for Josh Jackson-type deal? I still believe in that guy's talent btw
 
NPC D4617 said:



This **** is so stupid that we dont go after Jabari. This guy is a dominant offensive force who is a no bigger defensive liability than 90% of the league.

Jim Boylen is a **** coach who wont make it in this league. Him bench Jabari means nothing. Just means he is a jackass. There is no way Jabari is the worst player on that team. In fact he is is the best player probably. This might be the dumbest situation I have ever seen in the league.
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I’m actually liking what I’m seeing and I’d like to take a swing on Jabari but like to do it on the buyout market so we could keep him cheap next year if he plays well.

Last couple years he’s had Kidd... now Boylen. He might be ready to put stuff together in a competent organization.
 
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