PoS fan who harassed Westbrook

[LoPo]

There goes our off-season.

I hope not. If the Jazz PR were smart, they would have an inclusive message ASAP about a no-nonsense stance on inappropriate verbal abuse. By lunch....

I don't care about free agency. I care about losing Donovan.

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[str8line]

You don't know that. Based off the tweet, he is racist. But does that mean he yells racist stuff at Favors? Or Donovan?

Is there a better chance that he said something racist because his Twitter? Yes. That doesn't mean he did say something.

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Based on his tweets I think we can surmise that he had the intention of calling out Westbrook. Hell, interview the season ticket holders around him to find out what was said. I bet it's even on someone's cell phone. I'm pretty sure he crossed the line. And guess what, Westbrook is just like him. He's looking for trouble when he comes to Utah. They both are in the wrong.

Ban the fan and fine Westbrook. Anything less is a cop out by the NBA.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Based on his tweets I think we can surmise that he had the intention of calling out Westbrook. Hell, interview the season ticket holders around him to find out what was said. I bet it's even on someone's cell phone. I'm pretty sure he crossed the line. And guess what, Westbrook is just like him. He's looking for trouble when he comes to Utah. They both are in the wrong.

Ban the fan and fine Westbrook. Anything less is a cop out by the NBA.

I agree.
Gather the evidence and act.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think it's obvious from the dudes tweets that this was not the case.

Tend to agree

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[Bawse Dawg]

That's all you have seen? Interesting.
I have seen a lot of discussion about a lot of things brought on by this incident. More thought provoking that just kill the racist imo.

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Hopefully the Jazz PR damage control is on their game this week.

I was hoping we could rally around calling out and exiling the very small number of fans who make all of us look terrible. Instead of trying to determine the exact amount of vitriol Westbrook deserves to have thrown his way because of his demeanor.

Go to any internet comment section, forum, whatever and it’s ‘typical Utah’,‘not the first time’, ‘move them to Seattle’, etc.

That just really bums me out. I don’t want to both sides this issue. I want to be a respected organization, team, and fan base.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don’t care what’s on his twitter account. It’s totally beside the point. This is just a way for the powerful to go after a common person and protect the privileged. ESPN shouldn’t touch his twitter account, regardless of what’s on it. They are a major news Corporation with real power that can destroy someone’s life over whatever they deem appropriate. Anyone else think that’s just scary? What happens when they set rules that no one can follow?

Not much different than CNN going after a common guy making a meme with trump in WWE. The powerful going after, threatening, and exposing a regular guy shouldn’t be something we support.

Westbrook has a history of this. It doesn’t take much of anything to set him off. And this time, he threatened actual harm to a woman, which should bring calls to completely end his career if we’re being consistent. Which, we aren’t, and it’s not surprising. What is surprising this day and age is people overlooking the powerful abusing their privilege (millionaire players, media etc) and backing them when they attack common people. That’s whats scary to me.

Yeah... this dude gonna get crucified and likely lose more than Russ does.

Russ is also a moron here... all he has to say is yeah I said things I regret in the heat of the moment... dude should catch additional grief for saying he's say it all again. We all identify with saying things in the heat of the moment we regret.

 

[416Klawzz]

I’ve seen more racist stuff in 10 years living in NorCal than 20 years growing up in Utah.

This stuff is bad... but I hope it is the vocal minority and that other good people step up to squish it.

This is friggin terrible... ban the fan just in case... put mics in the stand... but if people around you at the game are acting a fool go ahead and call them on it and make them feel stupid.

At summer league these two duke haters are just screaming at Allen all game... just said to them are you guys really heckling a 20 year old kid in summer league loud enough that people could hear... they felt dumb and got real quiet. Let’s be better and handle **** internally.

I bet ya NorCal doesn't have the negative perception that Utah does in the NBA tho ?
Right ?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There goes our off-season.

I guess we only get in on the Kevin Love and Niko Mirotic now.

 

[416Klawzz]

Hopefully the Jazz PR damage control is on their game this week.

I was hoping we could rally around calling out and exiling the very small number of fans who make all of us look terrible. Instead of trying to determine the exact amount of vitriol Westbrook deserves to have thrown his way because of his demeanor.

Go to any internet comment section, forum, whatever and it’s ‘typical Utah’,‘not the first time’, ‘move them to Seattle’, etc.

That just really bums me out. I don’t want to both sides this issue. I want to be a respected organization, team, and fan base.

It's too late if you ask me, it was already a sinking ship. Now this makes it worse, hopefully Mitchell helps this down the road ...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I bet ya NorCal doesn't have the negative perception that Utah does in the NBA tho ?
Right ?

Correct. I don't think the stereotype that Utah is racist is accurate. Might just be the lack of diversity though.

Our fans are crazy and I think that can cross lines... I'd rather be crazy than indifferent or not engaged.

 

[Inn Dawn]

The number of people coming to the fans' defense and justifying their actions, if anything, further gives value to the multiple accusations from various players over the years regarding treatment from our fans. Where there is smoke there is usually fire. To now shift the conversation to Westbrook and his reaction takes away from the issue at hand and the conversation being had by the entire league regarding our fanbase.

If they did indeed say something to the effect of "get on your knees" than that is unacceptable and disgusting behavior. It's a racist remark that is meant to be racist and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional and ignorant. I'm all for heckling and getting into fan-mode but there is a line you don't cross. I think Westbrook crossed the line too with the wife remark but it sounds like both husband and wife were in on it.

 

[Jazzta]

Hopefully the Jazz PR damage control is on their game this week.

I was hoping we could rally around calling out and exiling the very small number of fans who make all of us look terrible. Instead of trying to determine the exact amount of vitriol Westbrook deserves to have thrown his way because of his demeanor.

Go to any internet comment section, forum, whatever and it’s ‘typical Utah’,‘not the first time’, ‘move them to Seattle’, etc.

That just really bums me out. I don’t want to both sides this issue. I want to be a respected organization, team, and fan base.

I've come across those comments too and it sucks. We don't want to be known as "that kind of place".

 

[Dr. Jones]

Hopefully the Jazz PR damage control is on their game this week.

I was hoping we could rally around calling out and exiling the very small number of fans who make all of us look terrible. Instead of trying to determine the exact amount of vitriol Westbrook deserves to have thrown his way because of his demeanor.

Go to any internet comment section, forum, whatever and it’s ‘typical Utah’,‘not the first time’, ‘move them to Seattle’, etc.

That just really bums me out. I don’t want to both sides this issue. I want to be a respected organization, team, and fan base.

If the fan deserves to be banned from the arena, ban him and anyone else that acts like a jackass.

But he is in the minority just as the fans of other teams that hold Utah accountable for this guy. Most people understand every fan base has those that embarrass them.

What’s disturbing about your post is you seem to care more about the Jazz’ reputation than whatever is the fair and equitable outcome. I mean, I read into your post you’d just as soon crucify the guy whether guilty or not just to show the world we are “good people.”

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Based on his tweets I think we can surmise that he had the intention of calling out Westbrook. Hell, interview the season ticket holders around him to find out what was said. I bet it's even on someone's cell phone. I'm pretty sure he crossed the line. And guess what, Westbrook is just like him. He's looking for trouble when he comes to Utah. They both are in the wrong.

Ban the fan and fine Westbrook. Anything less is a cop out by the NBA.

Our organization is straight class and will do everything possible to get to the bottom of it. If the fan acted poorly I expect them to ban him. Not sure the action was caught, but there are enough people around him that should be able to tell the story.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

If the fan deserves to be banned from the arena, ban him and anyone else that acts like a jackass.

But he is in the minority just as the fans of other teams that hold Utah accountable for this guy. Most people understand every fan base has those that embarrass them.

What’s disturbing about your post is you seem to care more about the Jazz’ reputation than whatever is the fair and equitable outcome. I mean, I read into your post you’d just as soon crucify the guy whether guilty or not just to show the world we are “good people.”

BS.

The reputation is earned, and there is a mountain of evidence against the dude.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The number of people coming to the fans' defense and justifying their actions, if anything, further gives value to the multiple accusations from various players over the years regarding treatment from our fans. Where there is smoke there is usually fire. To now shift the conversation to Westbrook and his reaction takes away from the issue at hand and the conversation being had by the entire league regarding our fanbase.

If they did indeed say something to the effect of "get on your knees" than that is unacceptable and disgusting behavior. It's a racist remark that is meant to be racist and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional and ignorant. I'm all for heckling and getting into fan-mode but there is a line you don't cross. I think Westbrook crossed the line too with the wife remark but it sounds like both husband and wife were in on it.

The thing that bugs me is we know exactly what Westbrook said... the rest is he said she said at this point. We can infer it was something bad, but it's a guess.

 

[Dr. Jones]

BS.

The reputation is earned, and there is a mountain of evidence against the dude.

Okay... so I said ban him and anyone else like him from the arena. But, BS, it is.

Good night fellas. Good catching up.

 

[Jazzta]

Hey Russ is no saint either, he seems to like to taunt fans in the arena. Not trying to justify the fan's racial slurs if there really were any (which is likely), but Russ should be mature enough to know that his behavior on the court might trigger fans, in a non-racial and unfortunately sometimes, a racial manner.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Okay... so I said ban him and anyone else like him from the arena. But, BS, it is.

Good night fellas. Good catching up.

Uh your personal assumptions of my intentions is what is BS, sir.

 

[Jazzta]

Okay... so I said ban him and anyone else like him from the arena. But, BS, it is.

Good night fellas. Good catching up.

Good night?