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Non jazz 2019 playoff discussion.

Sandman822 said:
No one excepted Giannis to be as good as he is, drafting Burke over McCollum is probably a more egregious error than Burke over Giannis.
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McCollum’s another example of how important ball-handling is. That and his smooth shot.

Anyone in the draft like him who has a great handle and smooth *** shot but isn’t top 5 projected?
 
MVP said:
lol, are you kidding me? No coach would have ruined Kawhi. And I seriously doubt Burks would be any better under Pop.
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I hope you slept on this seriously bad take and woke up with a better attitude. Coaches matter. Popovich vs Corbin does matter to a rookies mentality. A lot. Add in Duncan and the Spurs culture to a young AB, and it does make a difference. Im not saying AB would be Kawhi and Kawhi would be AB if their teams were swapped, but neither would be quite the player today if they were.
 
sahlensguy said:
I hope you slept on this seriously bad take and woke up with a better attitude. Coaches matter. Popovich vs Corbin does matter to a rookies mentality. A lot. Add in Duncan and the Spurs culture to a young AB, and it does make a difference. Im not saying AB would be Kawhi and Kawhi would be AB if their teams were swapped, but neither would be quite the player today if they were.
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Did Burks improved after Corbin left? Did Kawhi got worse after going to Raptors? You can't teach or alter basketball IQ and mental make up. Coaches may help a bit by putting players in right system to succeed but at the end it is up to the player to either become great or just stay mediocre. Burks would never be great on Spurs, heck Pop would never tolerate boneheaded decisions he was making.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Anyway, have the Warriors won it yet? I'm going to be sad if the Raptors advance, they will get steam-rolled.
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They would have home court advantage. And for what it is worth they steam-rolled GSW in Oakland by 20+ pts without Kawhi. And they won at home as well. I doubt it would be as one sided as you think... Raptors defense is by far the best in all playoffs. That series would go 6 at least and I would not be surprised if Raptors would pull an upset.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
McCollum’s another example of how important ball-handling is. That and his smooth shot.

Anyone in the draft like him who has a great handle and smooth *** shot but isn’t top 5 projected?
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There's a fine line between being a good player like that, and a player you don't want.

Like Rodney Hood vs McCollum.

But if there was anyone like McCollum in this draft it would be Kevin Porter.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
There's a fine line between being a good player like that, and a player you don't want.

Like Rodney Hood vs McCollum.

But if there was anyone like McCollum in this draft it would be Kevin Porter.
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Hood can shoot but he doesn’t have anywhere near the ballhandling ability of McCollum.

Is that Porter? Great ball handler (and therefore penetrator) and shooter?
 
What about Herro? He looks more fluid as a ballhandler than Porter. Like he was born to play basketball.
 
dong2ha said:
raptors didn’t stay put and trade for kawai... gasol... now they are in finals for the first time. I want jazz to make a risky move. no risk no championship


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This. I hope it’s a wake-up call. You don’t can’t build teams the same way you did in the 90s, and the sooner we realize that the better.
 
MVP said:
Did Burks improved after Corbin left? Did Kawhi got worse after going to Raptors? You can't teach or alter basketball IQ and mental make up. Coaches may help a bit by putting players in right system to succeed but at the end it is up to the player to either become great or just stay mediocre. Burks would never be great on Spurs, heck Pop would never tolerate boneheaded decisions he was making.
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I think the point is less that Burks would become a perennial All-NBA player and more that Kawhi couldn't shoot a ****ing basketball before he went to a team that is reknowned for improving players' jumpers.

Kawhi would've had a very different career if he didn't land in the most perfect situation imaginable and it's not a stretch to say that.
 
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