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Here is a nice addition to the discussions we have had regarding legalizing drugs. Apparently "legal" is entirely in the eye of the beholder, and states apparently do not have the right to legalize drugs in any way.

https://www.foxreno.com/news/28420473/detail.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Justice Department says that marijuana dispensaries and licensed growers in states with medical marijuana laws could face prosecution for violating federal drug and money-laundering laws.

In a policy memo to federal prosecutors obtained Thursday by The Associated Press, Deputy Attorney General James Cole said a 2009 memo by then-Deputy Attorney General David Ogden did not give states cover from prosecution.

Starting in February, 10 U.S. attorney's offices have asserted they have the authority to prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries and licensed growers in states with medical marijuana laws. Prosecutors, the states complained, are not even willing to declare that state employees who implement such laws are immune from prosecution.
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Really? So if a state votes it legal for medical dispensing, the federal government not only still considers it entirely illegal, they are threatening to use resources to prosecute the state itself? Wow what a tremendous waste of money and time.
 
Yeah, you want to talk about a waste of federal spending, look no further than the enforcement of marijuana laws over the past century.
 
Seriously. All the evidence points to the fact that weed isn't any more dangerous than alcohol... maybe less so. Just legalize it already... what exactly is the problem here?
 
AtheistPreacher said:
Seriously. All the evidence points to the fact that weed isn't any more dangerous than alcohol... maybe less so. Just legalize it already... what exactly is the problem here?
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Old people mostly...

That Reefer Madness **** was a hit back in the day.

What I don't understand is that people who are in their 50's, 60's and 70's today (most of government), and spent their teenage/20's (the reformative years) in the 60's and 70's... have completely lost sight of everything good that happened in those years. 500,000 people went to woodstock, where they protested everything wrong with the country... and for some reason it ended there.

I guess everybody sells out sooner or later.
 
https://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/09/science/la-sci-marijuana-20101010

"In California alone, nearly 1,000 deaths and injuries each year are blamed directly on drugged drivers, according to CHP data, and law enforcement puts much of the blame on the rapid growth of medical marijuana use in the last decade. Fatalities in crashes where drugs were the primary cause and alcohol was not involved jumped 55% over the 10 years ending in 2009."

Really, it's only 1000 people out of how many millions. I'm sure the relatives of the people killed and injured are all pushing for the total legalization of mary jane.
 
Surely said:
https://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/09/science/la-sci-marijuana-20101010
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I didn't see your quote in the link. I did see this:

A series of studies conducted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration published in 1998 found that the effects of marijuana alone on driving were small or moderate, but severe when combined with alcohol.

But other studies show little impairment from a moderate dose: A 2004 study in the journal Accident, Analysis and Prevention found no increased risk of motor vehicle accidents causing traumatic injury among drivers using marijuana.

"Even after smoking, there aren't any real deficits in driving ability that we can detect in the laboratory," said Mitch Earleywine, an associate professor of psychology at the State University of New York at Albany who serves as an advisory board member at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.
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So I have a question for some of you:
If you don't currently smoke marijuana, but used to, why did you quit? If it were legalized, would you start to smoke it again? And I'd be very interested in hearing reasons why you would or wouldn't. I have never tried it, and have some thoughts to this scenario, but I'm interested in hearing other takes on it.
 
catratcho said:
So I have a question for some of you:
If you don't currently smoke marijuana, but used to, why did you quit? If it were legalized, would you start to smoke it again? And I'd be very interested in hearing reasons why you would or wouldn't. I have never tried it, and have some thoughts to this scenario, but I'm interested in hearing other takes on it.
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I have a friend who smoked marijuana for 18 years (from the time he was 18 to 36). I was telling him about the thread on here awhile back where people were saying that marijuana was a harmless drug. He said that was complete bs and told me that marijuana cost him his first marriage. His wife got fed up with him getting high all the time so she gave him the choice of marijuana or the family (her and their two daughters). He threw the car keys at her and told her to get out. While he was smoking he said he didn't care about his family, his job or anything, just getting that next high. It wasn't until his second wife gave him the same choice that he finally quit. I'm not saying that this is everyone's story but I'm sure there are other stories like this out there.
 
Marijuana can be a problem for some people, just like alcohol is a problem for some people. Is that a sufficient reason to keep it illegal?
 
LogGrad98 said:
Really? So if a state votes it legal for medical dispensing, the federal government not only still considers it entirely illegal, they are threatening to use resources to prosecute the state itself? Wow what a tremendous waste of money and time.
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So is it your position that states should be able to "under-rule" federal policies?

I mean, because that's a Supremacy Clause issue and if you believe that than apparently you just hate the US Constitution. Don't tell Millsapa or she'll get all her teabagger friends to do something unsavory in or near the area of your face.
 
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