Chad Feldheimer
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is this the same league Kanter is playing in?
Deron Williams agress with Besiktas (turkish team )Derom Williams to play in Turkey during lockout
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Kanter is playing in a European tourney, like Country vs. Country. Dwill is joining a club team.
Chad Feldheimer
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OK thanks.
Dwill is clearly joining a Turkish team to brush back up on his Turkish relations, so he can join Kanter with the Jazz next year.
Scorpjazz
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So totally false...
Gyp Rosetti
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It wasn't there when I posted. But thanks.
Gyp Rosetti
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Exactly.
7StraightIsGreat
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Some will say that guys like D-Will heading to Turkey during the lockout hurts the player's leverage. I've already seen it said that these players need to remain here in order to show solidarity as a group and make the owners realize how serious they are.
I think just the opposite is true. Prokorov's stomach must be turning at the thought of his prized possession going over to Turkey and risking injury while playing for another team. Can you imagine how the Nets would look if D-Will suffered some sort of injury that made him miss signifigant time for the Nets once NBA basketball resumes? Nothing like trading Derrick Favors, a pick that ended up being Enes Kanter and quite possibly another Top-10 pick in 2012 for a guy who played about 20 games for you before going over to Turkey, blowing up his knee, and leaving via Free Agency in 2012.
Kobe Bryant is talking about organizing a team to do a "barnstorming" tour threw China with other NBA stars during the lockout. Kobe's no spring chicken anymore. Can you imagine the Laker's horror (and our delight) as Kobe is undercut on a layup by some guy who looks like Long Duck Dong?
My guess is that the more big time stars start agreeing to deals to play overseas, owners will start to realize that the longer this lockout lingers their investments are going to be playing basketball somewhere else. I think it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the owners to push for some sort of a deal sooner rather than later.
I think just the opposite is true. Prokorov's stomach must be turning at the thought of his prized possession going over to Turkey and risking injury while playing for another team. Can you imagine how the Nets would look if D-Will suffered some sort of injury that made him miss signifigant time for the Nets once NBA basketball resumes? Nothing like trading Derrick Favors, a pick that ended up being Enes Kanter and quite possibly another Top-10 pick in 2012 for a guy who played about 20 games for you before going over to Turkey, blowing up his knee, and leaving via Free Agency in 2012.
Kobe Bryant is talking about organizing a team to do a "barnstorming" tour threw China with other NBA stars during the lockout. Kobe's no spring chicken anymore. Can you imagine the Laker's horror (and our delight) as Kobe is undercut on a layup by some guy who looks like Long Duck Dong?
My guess is that the more big time stars start agreeing to deals to play overseas, owners will start to realize that the longer this lockout lingers their investments are going to be playing basketball somewhere else. I think it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the owners to push for some sort of a deal sooner rather than later.
Have you not been paying attention to almost every Olympics? Domination.
The owners all have to be on the same page. Just because Prokorov wants something doesn't the rest of the owners will also.
Gyp Rosetti
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but I have to think this is bad for the far majority of players and that it could cause some divide. Great, Deron signs. Kobe may join him on the same team the rumor goes. And I'm sure many more players may follow. But the large majority will still stay right here, hung out to dry, watching their peers make millions overseas as their bank accounts start to dwindle. Who's looking out for these guys on minimum salaries or thereabouts?
Maybe I'm wrong and this will be more leverage for Billy Hunter and Co. and in the long run it'll help all players as far as the new CBA goes but I just don't see it helping the little man. The veteran minimum won't go up enough that it will change anything for the 12th-15th man on the roster and so instead of trying to nail down a new CBA, they're left with their dicks hanging out while Deron plays overseas making bank. I also just see the owners standing their ground here, even if it means locking out for more than one season, thus making life for the nobodies on the roster even tougher.
Sorry. I could be way off base here but these are my initial reactions.
Maybe I'm wrong and this will be more leverage for Billy Hunter and Co. and in the long run it'll help all players as far as the new CBA goes but I just don't see it helping the little man. The veteran minimum won't go up enough that it will change anything for the 12th-15th man on the roster and so instead of trying to nail down a new CBA, they're left with their dicks hanging out while Deron plays overseas making bank. I also just see the owners standing their ground here, even if it means locking out for more than one season, thus making life for the nobodies on the roster even tougher.
Sorry. I could be way off base here but these are my initial reactions.
Gyp Rosetti
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billyshelby
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If I'm an owner, I'm happy to call the players' bluff if they go overseas. That's like quitting a 500k corporate gig plus bonus and perks to manage a 7/11 in Canada. Good luck, and don't forget to write.
^hyperbole^
billyshelby
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Sure it's a little hyperbole. But players don't want to make 1/5th or less of what they can make, and they don't want to live overseas. So the ploy doesn't work.
Why does it have to be a ploy?
Deron went from making no money playing basketball to making 350k a month.
billyshelby
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For Deron it's merely a way to play competitive basketball until the issues get resolved. It's like "low" paid training camp and he's coming off injury so he needs it. But the contract stipulates he says sayonara once the lockout is over.
The spin has been that other players could do this which would put pressure on the owners in negotiations. That's the ploy. But owners are not going to feel pressure since no significant players will sign longterm deals.
I tend to agree.