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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

Its fun to talk about all these scenarios, but in all reality I would not want the GM job for the Jazz.

They are fighting an uphill battle to get guys to come here, they suddenly have few assets and ownership is conservative. Worst of all, the GM can overcome all those things, and achieve more than anyone expected but still builds a team that finishes 10th in the stacked west.

I appreciate the Jazz keep swinging instead of giving up, but wow.
 
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infection said:
I don't mean the Conley trade, I mean the fact that we're not including him in the deal to Memphis. We're delusional.
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Not necessarily. Utah can create a tuckfon of cap quickly and can simply eat Conley's contract for picks/talent after FA starts, while still having some cash left over for roster needs (stretch four, backup PG, etc.). It simply depends when the deal happens.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Not necessarily. Utah can create a tuckfon of cap quickly and can simply eat Conley's contract for picks/talent after FA starts, while still having some cash left over for roster needs (stretch four, backup PG, etc.). It simply depends when the deal happens.
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Perhaps. I just seem to read that as "OMG we've gotta keep Favors at all costs" kind of reasoning. Perhaps it means waiving his non-guaranteed, but I'm inclined to believe DL is nervously sitting on a toilet somewhere thinking "but Favors is a part of the solution."
 
We've all done the math. So follow me here:

$33 million (cap space after renouncing Rubio, Thabo, Udoh and pretty sure Neto)
-$18 million (Favors)
= $15 million (July cap space)

Conley is $32.5 (starting July 1)

Exum is $9.6
Korver, if guaranteed, is $7.5
Bradley is $2
= $19 million

I'm pretty sure that in July we could trade Exum, Korver, Bradley and whatever pick for Conley

$15 million of cap space
+
$19 million (Ex, KK, TB)
=
$34 million

We would add Conley and keep Favors AND Crowder. In my mind, this is the only way Conley makes sense. If we only gave up Exum, #23, TB and Korver, it's a great trade. Outside of that, especially a future 1st too, screw that.
 
infection said:
I suppose we could match salary by trading Exum, Crowder, Korver, Bradley, and Neto, but that'd be a lot more stupid than just trading Favors and Exum.
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Salaries don’t have to match, the Jazz just have to be kept under the cap, correct? So theoretically the jazz would only have to send $16 million (or whatever the exact number is) in salary to get back conley’s $32 million. Assuming the jazz renounced rights to everyone but Favors.
 
It's like when George thought he could become assistant to the GM and give opinions on trade... "I've figured out how to get Bonds and Griffey in the same outfield without giving up much!" DL thinking "I've figured out how to improve the team while keeping Favors and DedEx!"
 
yamers said:
News out now is, kyrie signing with the nets good as done, and that dlo willl not be staying
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Please correct me if I got this wrong. Nets can sign and trade D-lo, but if they match an Restricted FA offer, they can't trade him until January?
 
mellow said:
Please correct me if I got this wrong. Nets can sign and trade D-lo, but if they match an Restricted FA offer, they can't trade him until January?
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Sign and Trades are damn near impossible now. There have only been 4 to happen since the new CBA came around in 2015. There wasn't a single S&T in summer 2018.

If Brooklyn is moving on from Russell, it's just over. Renounce and move on.
 
Carbon13 said:
Wow we may actually pull this off
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I don't think Exum, #23, Bradley and Korver get it done. If it does, yay. If it doesn't, and we have to add another pick, we will regret it.

I hate this. Conley is a good player, but he's not the difference and he's not going to get better. Favors is a good dude, but he's not the difference and not going to get better.

Instead of trying on behalf of Donovan to get a long term piece and one of his buddies, we're going to go out and spend $68 million on Conley the next two years while we give up a 1st or 2, and give up on Exum.
 
If Exum is the key to Conley coming to Utah....then would RJ Barrett become the 2nd pick in the draft ? Because it makes no sense to trade Conley for a PG then draft a PG also.
 
tleikheen said:
If Exum is the key to Conley coming to Utah....then would RJ Barrett become the 2nd pick in the draft ? Because it makes no sense to trade Conley for a PG then draft a PG also.
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Exum could play next to Ja. That's the beauty of Dante Exum if he pans out. He can play PG or SG. Hell, he can even play SF at his size. He actually fits very, very well next to Donovan and O'Neale long term if he could stay healthy and improve.

Big ifs, but Exum has a brighter 5 year outlook than Mike Conley. And no, I'm not kidding.
 
For my worthless 2cents ………. Jazz will regret trading someone (Exum) that can grow with Mitchell as opposed to Mitchell deferring to Conley an older player that will hurt the Jazz defensive length and athleticism ,2 commodities all elite teams are trying to get for their teams
 
From the Athletic. About D'Lo. Nothing crazy of new really.

Utah Jazz

By Tony Jones

The Jazz would have interest in Russell, but only if the Nets renounce his cap hold, making him an unrestricted free agent. As a player, the Jazz like Russell. He’s a dynamic presence in pick and roll and the Jazz have one of the best PNR bigs in the league in Rudy Gobert. Russell is also a dynamic isolation player, capable of creating his own offense off the dribble, which the Jazz sorely need in support of Donovan Mitchell. Most importantly, Russell and Mitchell have a close and longstanding relationship. However, the Jazz are very unlikely to make a substantial offer sheet to Russell or any RFA, because to clear the needed space, they would be forced to renounce the rights to Derrick Favors, and they aren’t going to do that for less than a sure thing. So, if the Nets sign a significant free agent or two and Russell shakes loose on the market, the Jazz may explore. But if Russell stays an RFA, it’s unlikely the Jazz pursue.

Leroux’s salary cap view: Even if they let Ricky Rubio walk, Utah is still well short of an offer at or over $20 million starting salary unless they let Favors go as well. Losing Rubio, Sefolosha and Udoh only leaves them with $14.8 million in space. Their other not fully guaranteed contracts are Favors, Kyle Korver (partially guaranteed), Raul Neto, Georges Niang and Royce O’Neale. The last three do not move the needle much because they are low salaries, plus the Jazz presumably want to keep some or all of them. Korver is not enough either so it likely comes down to Favors.
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LoPo said:
We've all done the math. So follow me here:

$33 million (cap space after renouncing Rubio, Thabo, Udoh and pretty sure Neto)
-$18 million (Favors)
= $15 million (July cap space)

Conley is $32.5 (starting July 1)

Exum is $9.6
Korver, if guaranteed, is $7.5
Bradley is $2
= $19 million

I'm pretty sure that in July we could trade Exum, Korver, Bradley and whatever pick for Conley

$15 million of cap space
+
$19 million (Ex, KK, TB)
=
$34 million

We would add Conley and keep Favors AND Crowder. In my mind, this is the only way Conley makes sense. If we only gave up Exum, #23, TB and Korver, it's a great trade. Outside of that, especially a future 1st too, screw that.
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Just a few thoughts on this, and I could be wrong:

-I don't think you'd have to guarantee Korver to trade him. Memphis would have to eat the 3.44 million he's guaranteed though if they wanted to waive him by 7/7.
-Using the Salt Lake City Hoops cap calculator, you could keep Neto in this scenario
 
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