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2011 Fiba EuroBasket - Turkey

mellow said:
I will be disappointed if he doesn't get about 58% fg, 15 rebounds 21 points, and 3.3 blocks per game. (see Valuncunias current FIBA averages)
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valanciunas is playing against very amateur players. Enes will play in a very high level competition, so you cant compare. Anyway Valanciunas will also play for Lithuania in the tourney, if you want to compare so much, you can compare the two in the same tourney, but i think Valanciunas will get more mins due to lack of talented big man in lithuania.
 
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pkm said:
i realize. Mine was a joke that he will do slightly better than gasol's and gortat's best numbers. I saw enes play enough that i don't need to be further convinced, though i'd love to see him doinate.
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:d
 
sepanol said:
valanciunas is playing against very amateur players. Enes will play in a very high level competition, so you cant compare. Anyway Valanciunas will also play for Lithuania in the tourney, if you want to compare so much, you can compare the two in the same tourney, but i think Valanciunas will get more mins due to lack of talented big man in lithuania.
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Or is it because he is better? Kidding! Think both will be very good NBA players. Turkey has a lot of big men that will be in front of Kanter in the rotation. So dont expect to see him play a lot except for in blowouts. Their roster is out. There are 4 NBA forwards/centers on the team plus some good players o European/Turkish teams.

https://www.todayszaman.com/news-24...robasket-announced-five-players-from-nba.html
 
NCJazz said:
Or is it because he is better? Kidding! Think both will be very good NBA players. Turkey has a lot of big men that will be in front of Kanter in the rotation. So dont expect to see him play a lot except for in blowouts. Their roster is out. There are 4 NBA forwards/centers on the team plus some good players o European/Turkish teams.

https://www.todayszaman.com/news-24...robasket-announced-five-players-from-nba.html
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By the same logic, Kanter lovers should not expect him to play major minutes when the lockout is over.
 
Zerol said:
By the same logic, Kanter lovers should not expect him to play major minutes when the lockout is over.
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its not the same logic at all, in Turkey there are more ready players than Kanter to compete, and its a tourney in a short period of time so they need urgent contribution. But in utah Enes at some point has to take major mins if he will prove he is a quality 3rd pick. NBA season lasts 1 year but euro basket 2 weeks
 
Team USA out of the U19 tournament. Lost to Russia. Kirielnko with 30 points. Jonas V with another ridiculous game against the Poles. Cleveland kicking themselves.
 
Why aren't guys like Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, Perry Jones,etc. playing for the USA?
 
If I was CLE, the draft would have been #1 Williams, #4 JV/Kanter. On the odd chance those two go, I get Irving anyways.

IMO Cleveland took a big swing assuming Irving is going to be a great player. IMO JV and Kanter are good bets and the Cavs would have been much better served taking Williams who has actually done something. I am probably in the minority but IMO Williams is better than Irving.
 
Brown Notes said:
If I was CLE, the draft would have been #1 Williams, #4 JV/Kanter. On the odd chance those two go, I get Irving anyways.

IMO Cleveland took a big swing assuming Irving is going to be a great player. IMO JV and Kanter are good bets and the Cavs would have been much better served taking Williams who has actually done something. I am probably in the minority but IMO Williams is better than Irving.
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I can put another bet that Williams will never come close to irving's level
 
I know when Cleveland picked Tristan Thompson I was giggled with excitement cause it meant somebody I didn't expect was slipping to 12 and there was two somebody's Burks and Leonard.

As far as Jonas he may end up being a very good player who knows and good for the kid for having a good U19 tourny but his performance will not change my opinion of the Jazz' pick of Kanter. He was rated as the best big man in this draft and had already put up good (or maybe better numbers) then Jonas is doing right now when Kanter participated 2yrs ago.

Now in 3-4yrs if Jonas ends up being a better player it will suck and I'll wish the Jazz had picked him but I wont hold it against them as again most everybody/everything I read had Kanter rated higher and the Jazz had been scouting Kanter since KOC went to UK after he was ruled ineligible during the last NBA season.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Why aren't guys like Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, Perry Jones,etc. playing for the USA?
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"North Carolina had four players say no (Harrison Barnes, Reggie Bullock P.J. Hairston and James Michael McAdoo), as did Kentucky (Anthony Davis, Mike Kidd-Gilchrist, Terrence Jones and Marquis Teague). Duke had three (Quinn Cook, Austin Rivers and Josh Hairston). Big men with NBA futures such as Ohio State's Jared Sullinger, UCLA's Josh Smith, Memphis' Adonis Thomas and high-schooler Andre Drummond also passed."

https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/luke_winn/07/08/U.S.U19.loss/

This doesn't necessarily answer why, just that they decided to pass. I would personally guess because it wouldn't help their draft stock in any way really. They're already very highly touted and it's their college season that will determine if their draft stock rises or falls. Could this push someone up five to ten spots? Sure. But if their subsequent college season is mediocre, this tournament means nothing.
 
I can't speak to the other teams, but I heard that Calipari asked the players to put more emphasis on getting on campus, getting a jump start on school work, getting to know one another better, and hitting the weight room .. over traveling around to play exhibition games. Side Note::: UK's strength and conditioning coach (Rock Oliver), has put 10 pounds on Anthony Davis in the first 30 days on campus, as well as 7 onto Gilchrist.
 
PKM said:
*uk

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I think your eyes deceived you and you can't prove otherwise. J/K

Man you responded fast, imagine both KU and UK fans prolly get upset about that sorry. Oh and as a Ute fan in case I haven't mentioned lately, UK and Padgett with his undersized yet over inflated balls can kiss my b-hole.
*bitter since 98*:p
 
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