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Grade the Trade (poll thread only)

Grade the Mike Conley Trade for Utah

  • A

    Votes: 69 53.5%

  • B

    Votes: 46 35.7%

  • C

    Votes: 11 8.5%

  • D

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • F

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    129
stitches said:
Why am I the debbie downer? I've never doubted Conley's ability on the floor and his fit with the Jazz. This was never about Conley's play and fit. It's about his contract, his ET option, the price we paid, health risks, the protections we put on the pick, the direction we continue to take year after year... sending more and more and more picks out for rental after rental. I have no idea why it's so offensive to people that some don't love the trade...
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I’m not offended. I just thing you’re over worrying. We’re gonna be really really good.
 
Douchebag K said:
I’m not offended. I just thing you’re over worrying. We’re gonna be really really good.
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That's the goal. And I agree to a huge degree. I think depending on how we finish the off-season and the roster, we might really really good and get to the 55+ wins range. But this is not why you make a trade like this... you make it to win the championship. Or... lets relax that condition a bit because I do realize a lot of it is luck based - you do this trade to put yourself in the position to get lucky and win a championship. If we are legit title contender next year, this trade might have been worth it. Lets see if it happens...(because what we were last couple of years was not it)
 
The general consensus that I've seen is The Jazz won this trade big time.

Deadspin had a pretty humorous take yesterday - would link but they use bad words.
 
This is a trade that puts the Jazz in the championship conversation for the first time since 1999. Fans still bag on it.

Team is trying to win, Conley is an amazing talent, and all these “should have done x” scenarios seem to ignore the reality that 2 sides have to agree to trades.

A trade that gets us into title contention versus hope and prayer that we sign a FA is a no-brainer. Especially since they guy we traded for simply knows how to win, and folks like Harris disappeared in the playoffs.

This has to be the most fickle fan base in the league. LBJ or KD could sign here at folks would complain.
 
colton said:
...I think we very well might have Conley for only a single year.
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I have a hard time believing that anyone is going to pay a 33 year old player who's career is winding down more than the 30+ mil that will be left on Conley's contract for the 20-21 season.
 
A. The trade is a plausible pathway to a championship. Few people thought Toronto could win it all and look what happened. Go all in, it’s about the only way to win the title.
 
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colton said:
Who's doing that? I haven't seen too many people placing value on that pick. Speaking for myself, it's the 2022 pick I'm concerned about.
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Obviously not you. Curious tho, where in that 7-30 range do you consider giving up too much to take a shot (as long as that is) with this team?
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Obviously not you. Curious tho, where in that 7-30 range do you consider giving up too much to take a shot (as long as that is) with this team?
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Good question. Probably top 14?

And it's not like this move was the only possible shot. So your question should have been phrased, "where in that 7-30 range do you consider giving up too much to take THIS shot with this team?"

Someone reported yesterday that the Jazz had risen to number 1 on Tobias Harris's list. Don't know if that is accurate, but the point is the Conley deal was not the only option.
 
Scat said:
I have a hard time believing that anyone is going to pay a 33 year old player who's career is winding down more than the 30+ mil that will be left on Conley's contract for the 20-21 season.
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Clearly no one will give him a one year contract worth more than $34.5 million. But would a team offer him 3 years at $25 million/year? And if so, would that be tempting to him? I think it would.

So hopefully he does well, likes the Jazz, and wants to stay here. But it's a real risk. And I get it... everything has risk. Waiting to see if the Jazz could sign Harris in free agency would have also been a real risk.
 
colton said:
Good question. Probably top 14?

And it's not like this move was the only possible shot. So your question should have been phrased, "where in that 7-30 range do you consider giving up too much to take THIS shot with this team?"

Someone reported yesterday that the Jazz had risen to number 1 on Tobias Harris's list. Don't know if that is accurate, but the point is the Conley deal was not the only option.
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Are you saying you'd prefer DL had taken the two in the bush route? Let's say offering Favors + top 3 2022 protected for Harris on a max SNT? Is Harris plus that gamble better than Conley and Favors a sure thing?

Also, I don't see Conley giving up 34.5/1 for 75/3.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Are you saying you'd prefer DL had taken the two in the bush route? Let's say offering Favors + top 3 2022 protected for Harris on a max SNT? Is Harris plus that gamble better than Conley and Favors a sure thing?
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No, my "A" scenario would have been the Jazz signing Harris or other impact FA outright in free-agency. And possibly trading Favors to clear up space if they could find any takers, or waiving Favors if not. Not giving up any other assets beyond that.

And yes, I consider Harris signed to a 3 year contract to be a better gamble than Conley and Favors both on essentially 1 year contracts.

Also, I don't see Conley giving up 34.5/1 for 75/3.
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That was just a made up number on my part. Maybe it's 80/3, maybe it's 90/3. I think he'd definitely do 90/3 over 34.5/1, though, and maybe 80/3 or something slightly lower than that. Who knows.
 
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