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Why we should hope Exum plays more PG than Mudiay ... and other passing stats

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Calculated from NBA.com's tracking passes stats: 2018-19 EFG% of their teammates when the shot was preceded from a pass by

58.4 Korver
57.2 Neto
52.3 Exum
51.7 Mitchell
49.5 Conley
49.4 Rubio
49.2 Bogdanovic
49.1 O'Neale
48.3 Davis
48.2 Green
48.1 Ingles
47.1 Gobert
46.2 Niang
45.4 Crowder
44.9 Favors
44.2 Burks
43.3 Mudiay
42.8 Sefolosha

Of course team context needs to be kept in mind. These figures also have no relationship to turnovers, fouls drawn, total number of assists, etc.

But maybe this can be regarded as something of a measure that combines gravity/pass quality.

EDIT: Mod, please change "home" to "hope" in title
 
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Donovan Mitchell's EFG% when shot preceded by a pass by (minimum 20 passes):

58.5 O'Neale
50.5 Ingles
47.6 Exum
45.5 Gobert
45.3 Rubio
44.4 Neto
43.9 Favors
43.2 Korver
42.0 Niang
38.7 Crowder
33.9 Sefolosha
 
Rudy Gobert's EFG% when shot preceded by a pass by (minimum 20 passes):

81.0 Exum
61.4 Mitchell
57.8 Crowder
53.6 Favors
53.2 Rubio
52.0 Korver
51.7 O'Neale
48.3 Ingles
23.1 Sefolosha
 
idiot said:
Calculated from NBA.com's tracking passes stats: 2018-19 EFG% of their teammates when the shot was preceded from a pass by

58.4 Korver
57.2 Neto
52.3 Exum
51.7 Mitchell
49.5 Conley
49.4 Rubio
49.2 Bogdanovic
49.1 O'Neale
48.3 Davis
48.2 Green
48.1 Ingles
47.1 Gobert
46.2 Niang
45.4 Crowder
44.9 Favors
44.2 Burks
43.3 Mudiay
42.8 Sefolosha

Of course team context needs to be kept in mind. These figures also have no relationship to turnovers or total number of assists, etc.

But maybe this can be regarded as something of a measure that combines gravity/pass quality.

EDIT: Mod, please change "home" to "hope" in title
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Assuming good health, I'd be shocked if this wasn't the case.
 
Joe Ingles's EFG% when shot preceded by a pass by (minimum 20 passes):

65.4 Neto
61.3 Rubio
60.0 Mitchell
57.7 Crowder
57.7 Gobert
52.3 O'Neale
43.8 Favors
22.2 Exum

(Note: Ingles somehow made only 5 of 30 3-pointers after a pass from Favors and missed all 14 of his 3 pointers after a pass from Exum)
 
Dante Exum's EFG% when shot preceded by a pass by (minimum 20 passes):

58.6 Mitchell
52.2 Ingles
46.4 Favors
42.9 Gobert
36.0 O'Neale
30.4 Crowder
 
Royce ONeale's EFG% when shot preceded by a pass by (minimum 20 passes):

62.4 Mitchell
60.3 Crowder
55.6 Exum
52.0 Ingles
44.0 Rubio
 
George Niang's EFG% when shot preceded by a pass by (minimum 10 passes -- small sample size alert for almost all of these):

67.5 Mitchell
64.3 Rubio
58.7 Ingles
55.6 Neto
46.2 Exum
39.3 O'Neale
 
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Some observations (beyond the Exum point in the title):

- Mitchell is vital for the Jazz's offense, despite his own shooting inefficiency thus far (obviously)

- We got rid of our top and lowest performers in this passing measure this offseason. They were replaced by generally good performers in this measure (aside from Mudiay)

- Somehow we were better off with Gobert passing to Ingles than Ingles passing to Gobert

-Ingles is a little bit of the odd person out among the Jazz's returnees, as his passing seems to have fit better with those who are gone than those who remain

-Other than Ingles, it seems almost as if the Jazz purposefully kept those who had good chemistry with each other (according to this passing measure)
 
Mudiay is gona show up. I got a feeling hes going to buy into snyders system and become a very solid player.

Best of luck to exum. Hope he can stay healthy, but I never was a big believer.

Hope im wrong about x.
 
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Korver, the ultra floor spreader

Neto, the eye test indicated same as these results: general team uptick when he checked in. He pressed the d into reacting.

Exum, breaks down defenders, putting pressure on defense. Openings occur via help d.

Mitchell, draws a lot of attention, creating open for others.

So why is ingles so low? He’s a play maker...

All the low guys are clear...
 
Harcher said:
So why is ingles so low? He’s a play maker...
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I think it's largely because of his relatively poor passing relationship with Gobert. Gobert took more shots than anyone else on the team off of passes from Ingles, and as the stats show, that connection just wasn't good, for whatever reason.

I worry a little bit (since Conley has some of the same pocket-pass expertise off the pick and roll as Ingles) that the Conley-Gobert connection won't be as quick developing as we might hope. I don't think Gobert, as of yet, does well with that pocket bounce pass.
 
yamers said:
Just a bit surprised that they gave em that number. Thought dwill and jerry mended their relationship.
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That did but it's not like we retired his number or are going to. It's free game. He wasn't here long enough and didn't win enough to warrant retiring his number.
 
idiot said:
I think it's largely because of his relatively poor passing relationship with Gobert. Gobert took more shots than anyone else on the team off of passes from Ingles, and as the stats show, that connection just wasn't good, for whatever reason.
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Ingles is a master bounce passer off the pick and roll. He's like a surgeon. We saw this countless times with Favors and will be missed.

Also Favors could receive the bounce pass 12-15 from the basket on the PnR and finish or get fouled the vast majority of the time.

Gobert can't handle the bounce pass off the PnR and he needs to receive the pass (most of the time) within 5 to 8 feet of the basket - usually up high.

Exum has a knack for making lob passes off the dribble drive - they're very difficult to defend. It's probably the best thing he does.
 
yamers said:
Just a bit surprised that they gave em that number. Thought dwill and jerry mended their relationship.
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Maybe, but they’ve already let Josh Howard, Randy Foye, Diante Garrett, Bryce Cotton, Jonas Jerebko, and The Great Shelvin Mack wear it. What’s one more?
 
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