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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Gameface said:
That's not a spelling error. That's an "I didn't know the right word" error.
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Right fuson and fishion GPS using the wrong word for a business name is unforgivable. Anyone notice the rise of hostility on the board since the impeach Trump group's last chance for impeachment went down the drain with the 2 Mueller hearings?
 
DasJazz said:
Man is your head going to explode when President Trump wins reelection.

Have fun cupcakes.
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He could win, and then all of us will be toast.

Trump would be extremely dangerous in his second term, plus we'd never hear the end of it.

If he wins we will see the full extent of his crazy, and we'll get what we deserve. To validate his behavior with re-election would be a huge stain on this country.

Plus the guys mental, and physical health is only going to decline. He can barely get through a speech now without butchering the English language. Imagine him in 5 years!

Biggest cry baby, self absorbed, classless, fake tough guy in my lifetime. The 1% are praying we are dumb enough to elect this clown.
 
Revolution 9 said:
He could win, and then all of us will be toast.

Trump would be extremely dangerous in his second term, plus we'd never hear the end of it.

If he wins we will see the full extent of his crazy, and we'll get what we deserve. To validate his behavior with re-election would be a huge stain on this country.

Plus the guys mental, and physical health is only going to decline. He can barely get through a speech now without butchering the English language. Imagine him in 5 years!

Biggest cry baby, self absorbed, classless, fake tough guy in my lifetime. The 1% are praying we are dumb enough to elect this clown.
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I would argue that Democrats have marred his entire 1st term as president with everything they could to delay and disrupt the administration at every turn. Case and point is fighting the administration on things that they themselves have championed for years, i.e. border barriers and security. And in addition to all of that, conservative voters feel like they have been part of that nonstop attack (both verbally and physically) and will vote him back in.

I honestly think that Democrats best strategy at this point is to focus on the 2024 campaign. I don't think they have any chance of winning the next election. They need really badly to trot out somebody new and not the same old retreads with tons of baggage.
 
Jazzta said:
This is what’s enervating. Does one action exclude the other? A pedo is a pedo.
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What is the pedo stuff being peddled on here about Trump? Honest question, was there some big revelation that I missed between yesterday and today?
 
Revolution 9 said:
He could win, and then all of us will be toast.

Trump would be extremely dangerous in his second term, plus we'd never hear the end of it.

If he wins we will see the full extent of his crazy, and we'll get what we deserve. To validate his behavior with re-election would be a huge stain on this country.

Plus the guys mental, and physical health is only going to decline. He can barely get through a speech now without butchering the English language. Imagine him in 5 years!

Biggest cry baby, self absorbed, classless, fake tough guy in my lifetime. The 1% are praying we are dumb enough to elect this clown.
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Hyperbole much dude?
 
DasJazz said:
I would argue that Democrats have marred his entire 1st term as president with everything they could to delay and disrupt the administration at every turn. Case and point is fighting the administration on things that they themselves have championed for years, i.e. border barriers and security. And in addition to all of that, conservative voters feel like they have been part of that nonstop attack (both verbally and physically) and will vote him back in.

I honestly think that Democrats best strategy at this point is to focus on the 2024 campaign. I don't think they have any chance of winning the next election. They need really badly to trot out somebody new and not the same old retreads with tons of baggage.
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For two years his own party had control of the house and senate. Democrats couldn’t block anything.

Don’t blame democrats for trump failing to accomplish his biggest campaign promises like:

1. Building a wall and making Mexico pay for it. (Damn I wish Pelosi would stop blocking this)

2. Enacting Trumpcare, a make believe not single payer health care system where costs go down, quality goes up, and everyone is covered.

3. Bringing back coal and car factories. (Are we gonna blame AOC for this? Can we? Or Omar, you know, cuz Muslim)?
 
Jazzta said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/21/jeffrey-epstein-trump-clinton-1424120

https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton



Your honest thoughts on all this?
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Okay honest thoughts. The first article showed that Clinton was way more active with Epstein (26 times). Also, I may have missed it but I believe it failed to document that Trump has banned Epstein from his Mar A Lago resort as a result of finding out about his sexual harassment years ago.

The 2nd article I refused to even give the time of day because it is written by Vox and if that's your go-to, you have lost all credibility.

And finally, the Howard Stern video, joking about things and acting in a sexual nature, while inappropriate, was the entire point of his show. He routinely had naked women on his shows, and sexual acts done on the show. It was clearly a joke and I take the real meaning to be that because of his stature, that he could hook up with pretty much any lady he wanted at the time. That makes him a womanizer, not a sexual predator or pedophile.

Again, source and context is very important.
 
DasJazz said:
From what I understand, it is not a lie.
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Among other things, they used Epstein's plane to tour Africa, Europe, and Asia for awareness and fundraising. I'm not saying Clinton never went to pedo island, but that's not what most of the trips involved.
 
DasJazz said:
The 2nd article I refused to even give the time of day because it is written by Vox and if that's your go-to, you have lost all credibility.
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What's your beef with Vox? The media bias chart has it under left-leaning, fair interpretation of the news. I haven't seen you call out links to sites like the Daily Caller, which are much less reliable. The Vox story even included your factoid about Trump banning Epstein.
 
DasJazz said:
Okay honest thoughts. The first article showed that Clinton was way more active with Epstein (26 times). Also, I may have missed it but I believe it failed to document that Trump has banned Epstein from his Mar A Lago resort as a result of finding out about his sexual harassment years ago.

The 2nd article I refused to even give the time of day because it is written by Vox and if that's your go-to, you have lost all credibility.

And finally, the Howard Stern video, joking about things and acting in a sexual nature, while inappropriate, was the entire point of his show. He routinely had naked women on his shows, and sexual acts done on the show. It was clearly a joke and I take the real meaning to be that because of his stature, that he could hook up with pretty much any lady he wanted at the time. That makes him a womanizer, not a sexual predator or pedophile.

Again, source and context is very important.
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It's not a competition on who was more active with Epstein. Fact is, Trump had been active with Epstein. You have to be very naive to believe that Trump had no clue about what was happening on the island. Of course he's going to try to disassociate himself from Epstein when running for President was in his scope.

Vox is not my go-to, I think you lose all credibility when making assumptions that just by posting an article from a certain news source, that I may have lost all credibility.

And yes, context matters. At that time I wouldn't have given the joke any thought. Now in hindsight, I realize that it's anything but a funny joke.

Look, I voted for Trump myself and I feel that a great portion of the population have been utilized. You need to wake up to the fact that Trump is out there for nothing but himself.
He's stated that as President he can do anything that he wants, and brags about being able to flatten out a foreign country in 10 days, with the high death toll that would come with it (what if you were from Afghanistan and heard that ****). I now see the dangers behind the rise of Trump when people are willing to roll with anything their dear leader says, no matter how unethical, amoral it may come across, the "send her back" chants come to mind. Anyway you do you, I don't expect to change your mind.
 
One of the reasons why I support impeaching trump is that I believe there needs to be some accounting for the corruption of his campaign and administration. To me, this sort of stuff needs to be put in the light.



Deripaska is discussed at great length in the Mueller report.

* He’s an oligarch with close ties with Putin.

* He and Manafort were once business partners. In fact, Deripaska was his only investment partner. When that business went under he reportedly owed $10 million to Deripaska. I certainly don’t blame Manafort for being a little anxious. Russian oligarchs usually get their pound of flesh (literally).

* Manafort worked for Trump FOR FREE. According to the Mueller report, he wanted to exploit his access to the campaign and to the future admin as payoffs for the debts he owed to Deripaska.

* During the campaign, Manafort Fed Deripaska internal polling data that was most likely used by Russians to fine tune their farm factories in election interference and target specific states and population demographics.

* Trump’s treasury dept has since eased sanctions on Deripaska and the state he’s investing in happens to be the Senate majority leader’s state.

Those are the facts. So I’ll just let you decide what you think.
 
Jazzta said:
It's not a competition on who was more active with Epstein. Fact is, Trump had been active with Epstein. You have to be very naive to believe that Trump had no clue about what was happening on the island. Of course he's going to try to disassociate himself from Epstein when running for President was in his scope.

Vox is not my go-to, I think you lose all credibility when making assumptions that just by posting an article from a certain news source, that I may have lost all credibility.

And yes, context matters. At that time I wouldn't have given the joke any thought. Now in hindsight, I realize that it's anything but a funny joke.

Look, I voted for Trump myself and I feel that a great portion of the population have been utilized. You need to wake up to the fact that Trump is out there for nothing but himself.
He's stated that as President he can do anything that he wants, and brags about being able to flatten out a foreign country in 10 days, with the high death toll that would come with it (what if you were from Afghanistan and heard that ****). I now see the dangers behind the rise of Trump when people are willing to roll with anything their dear leader says, no matter how unethical, amoral it may come across, the "send her back" chants come to mind. Anyway you do you, I don't expect to change your mind.
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Excellent, you know that you won't change my mind of supporting the president. I never said I agree with all things Trump but to call him a pedo among other things is a tad much even for the Trump haters. This is one of many reasons why having good dialogue conversations is so difficult with those who don't support the president. Everything he does or says is viewed with the worst possible outcome as his meaning and even things he does not do are now hurled in his face and made to be some sick reality just cause you don't like him. It's gotten to the point where those who oppose have just cried wolf one too many times. It's kind of like starting an investigation, not liking the outcome, and then investigating it again for a gotcha moment. And when that doesn't work, we just start new investigations! Sound familiar?
 
DasJazz said:
I never said I agree with all things Trump but to call him a pedo among other things is a tad much even for the Trump haters.
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Yeah, who could think that the guy who used to walk in on the Miss Teen USA contestants while they were still dressing is a pedo? How silly.
 
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