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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

“Thriller, are you really advocating for voters to vote against even “moderate” republicans? Remind us why we should do that. You sound so extreme and radical. Why do you advocate for punishing all members of the Republican Party? You’re so librule!

Remind us Thrill why we should do that!”

 
You heard it everyone, vote democrat no matter what. Democrat, democrat, democrat!!!
You're choosing to look at this as "vote democrat" rather than defeat Trump. If your primary goal is to get Trump out of office, and therefor restore the Republic to something resembling normalcy, voting for Democrats is the only realistic path to get that done.
 
You're choosing to look at this as "vote democrat" rather than defeat Trump. If your primary goal is to get Trump out of office, and therefor restore the Republic to something resembling normalcy, voting for Democrats is the only realistic path to get that done.

Right?

I get that we’re posting on a sports message board and not deep in a political science class at Harvard. But this shouldn’t be that difficult to understand. I can’t believe the last 2-3 pages of this thread honestly.

Dems political purity? Huh? What should the primary be for then?
Vote 3rd party? Huh???

It’s like 2017-2019 haven’t happened and we’re reliving many of the same debates we had in 2015-2016.

I just don’t get why those predisposed to vote republican are having such anxiety with voting for democrats. It’s not that hard to see that one party has gone bat **** crazy and the other one remains sane.
 
Right?

I get that we’re posting on a sports message board and not deep in a political science class at Harvard. But this shouldn’t be that difficult to understand. I can’t believe the last 2-3 pages of this thread honestly.

Dems political purity? Huh? What should the primary be for then?
Vote 3rd party? Huh???

It’s like 2017-2019 haven’t happened and we’re reliving many of the same debates we had in 2015-2016.

I just don’t get why those predisposed to vote republican are having such anxiety with voting for democrats. It’s not that hard to see that one party has gone bat **** crazy and the other one remains sane.
Yeah the purity test thing is odd. Nobody on the left is saying establishment Democrats like Pelosi or Schumer aren't really Democrats, some are saying they aren't progressive enough, or not willing to fight Trump as aggressively as they should.

I mean, of course there are factions within the Democrats that want to pull the party to the left, just as there are some that wish to pull to the right. It's been the case for ages that the Democratic party is a very big tent, whose members hold a variety of views, sometimes to the parties own detriment. This isn't new, at all.
 
Yeah the purity test thing is odd. Nobody on the left is saying establishment Democrats like Pelosi or Schumer aren't really Democrats, some are saying they aren't progressive enough, or not willing to fight Trump as aggressively as they should.

I mean, of course there are factions within the Democrats that want to pull the party to the left, just as there are some that wish to pull to the right. It's been the case for ages that the Democratic party is a very big tent, whose members hold a variety of views, sometimes to the parties own detriment. This isn't new, at all.
To add to this, the only thing "new" about this is that the more left wing faction is actually having some success, which I chalk up to changes in the electorate. As much as our conservative brothers wish it wasn't the case, Americans actually do support progressive policies like universal healthcare, higher taxes on the wealthy, mandatory paid maternal leave, stricter gun control etc.
 
“Thrill, remind us again why we shouldn’t both sideserism the two political parties? I mean, Fox News is like the same as cnn or msnbc, right?”

 
Why Do Democrats Run All Of The Dangerous And Rodent Infested Cities?

https://townhall.com/columnists/kev...dangerous-and-rodent-infested-cities-n2550734

"Congressman Elijah Cummings may honestly believe that his district in West Baltimore doesn’t stink.

But it does.

I’ve been there, I’ve seen and smelled it.

Bernie Sanders called it “the third world" back in 2016.

Sometimes the truth hurts. Especially to those bathed, clothed, and dipped in the intoxication of corrupt power, but that’s why sunlight is so helpful.

And disinfecting!

Rep. Cummings, while being very obsessed with Russia, seems utterly bewildered with the idea that anyone could dare question why so many billions of federal dollars flow to places like West Baltimore when they are obviously doing no good.

Look at other cities in similar dilapidation and there holds a unique truth: Democrats run them all.

How long will sewage run down the streets of San Francisco? How long will St. Louis, Detroit, and Baltimore, continue to rotate as the nation’s most dangerous crime infested metros? And how long will federal dollars keep chasing bad money with new?

None of the elected officials seem to know—much less care.

Why would they?"
 
Democrats Have Lost What Was Left Of Their Minds

https://townhall.com/columnists/der...ve-lost-what-was-left-of-their-minds-n2550725

"Imagine being a Democrat right now. You have the House, and the Republican majority in the Senate is small. In the race for the presidency, you have every advantage with the exception of incumbency. Yes, the economy is booming but there isn’t a mainstream media or cultural institution that isn’t on your side and willing to anything to help you win. All you have to do is not act crazy and you’re 99 percent of the way home. And that’s the problem, there are no longer any sane Democrats.
The House hearing with Robert Mueller on Wednesday was supposed to be their shining moment, their chance to rally the country to their thus far rejected cause. Instead, it was another in a long line of flops. After watching it, I wanted to call a hotline to, as I put it in my podcast, report a shameless display of elder abuse.

It’s true that Mueller didn’t want to be there, but it appears everyone was wrong about the reason why. He’s not “above the fray,” as he was portrayed by liberals, he’s lost a lot of steps. Most shockingly, the hearing exposed that he was, at best, barely involved in the investigation. He was a name to put on the letterhead to give it gravitas and the appearance of bipartisanship.

The hearing left those who watched it with the realization he was an autopen to sign off on subpoenas, letters, and the final report. I’d feel pity for him were there not so much destruction in his wake. No matter how many steps he’s lost, he knew he was driving people into bankruptcy chasing a unicorn and he sat there, silently, hammering paychecks.

But Mueller’s embarrassing testimony wasn’t the only problem for Democrats. They had to polish that turd, no matter what. This was their moment in the sun.

Democrats are running out of silver bullets to take out President Trump. First, they thought he’d implode. He didn’t. They said he’d destroy the economy, it’s thriving. They swore he colluded with Russia. He didn’t. The promised the Mueller report would change minds. It didn’t. They switched their focus to obstruction of justice. No one cared.

After dozens of unfulfilled promises and shifting goalposts, even with so many advantages working for them and a team of investigators with unlimited power, they have nothing. Because facts matter, evidence matters. So much of the past 2 years has been spent trying to change that, trying to “fundamentally transform” the country into something it was created to be the opposite of, and they failed. They’re handling it about as well as you’d expect."
 
Voting indep is throwing you vote away...
Pretty sure we've had this discussion before, but voting AT ALL is throwing your vote away. The chance of any one person's vote affecting the presidential election is statistically impossible.
 
@Jazzta

And others who are thinking about voting indep.

Along with hypotheticals, would you prefer to vote for a candidate like Warren or Harris who might be a little more liberal than you’re used to and get trump out? Or would you really prefer “political purity” and vote indep and give trump another 4 years to embarrass us globally and race bait black communities daily?
Completely false dichotomy there. Literally nothing I do will make the difference between Trump winning or losing.

Fwiw, there are some Democratic candidates I would likely vote for, others I would not. If one of the ones too removed from my views wins the nomination, I will be voting third party again.
 
For Silisian you could also add:

NAZI!!!! Anyone that posts a conservative point of view on Jazzfanz.

 
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Pretty sure we've had this discussion before, but voting AT ALL is throwing your vote away. The chance of any one person's vote affecting the presidential election is statistically impossible.

I remember hearing this garbage 3 years ago. It was false then and it still is now.

* Remind me again the vote margin between Hillary Clinton and Donald trump in just 3 Great Lakes area states? I remember reading not too long ago, that many of those voters would’ve voted for Clinton but due to the very attitude that Colton is displaying, didn’t vote. Oops.

* Maybe colton missed this:

https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0710-voter-turnout-20180709-story.html

In Baltimore County, former Del. Johnny Olszewski Jr. has been declared the Democratic nominee for county executive — pending the recount requested by state Sen. Jim Brochin whom he bested by nine — count them, nine — votes in a contest where more than 84,000 votes were cast.

Or this

In Montgomery County, the Democratic county executive primary was decided in similar squeaker fashion with Councilman Marc Elrich besting businessman David Blair by 80 votes, which is roughly 0.06 percent of the 129,337 votes recorded.

Or this

the final tally in the District 1 Democratic primary had Councilman Jon Weinstein with 3,171 votes and challenger Elizabeth “Liz” Walsh with 3,173.

“But Thrill! Those are all from the east. Utah is different. My vote in utah is worthless!”

https://www.deseretnews.com/article...-for-mcadams-in-final-vote-certification.html

SALT LAKE CITY — It's Congressman-elect Ben McAdams after election results were certified Tuesday.

The Democratic Salt Lake County mayor's lead over Republican Rep. Mia Love was at 694 votes following the final vote canvass throughout the 4th Congressional District, just 21 votes beyond the margin that would have allowed Love to ask for a recount.


McAdams ended up with 134,964 votes to Love's 134,270, winning the Nov. 6 election with 50.13 percent of the vote to 49.87 percent for the two-term congresswoman.

Every vote matters. Even if in utah it’s a blowout for the presidential election, I’ll take great joy in voting AGAINST trump and doing my best to help the Democratic nominee win.

* Side-note: Mitt Romney has the lowest approval rating of all of Utah’s delegation while McAdams has the highest. Its worth arguing that Utahns might be harsher on Romney, who initially showed resistance to trump in a dignified way, but has since caved to become another trump bootlicker.
 
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Yes. If you don’t want trump, vote democrat. A third party candidate has zero chance of winning 270 electoral college votes. I’m sorry that the truth hurts.

Want the GOP to reform itself and return to being a Conservative party and not just the party of white nationalists? Vote for democrats.

You might not like it, but it’s the truth.

I’m not sure why this is such a hot take. Seems pretty obvious to me.

LOL Yep that is why President Trump has a higher approval rating at this time in his presidency than Obama did. Yep that is why despite 90% negative coverage from the mainstream media his approval rating is climbing. If it was not for indoctrinated college students, Trump wins more bigly. Did you the article on women not voting for Trump at Yahoo today? Go read the comments after the article Thriller. I am sure you won't be Thrilled with how women are feeling about Trump.
 
Completely false dichotomy there. Literally nothing I do will make the difference between Trump winning or losing.

Fwiw, there are some Democratic candidates I would likely vote for, others I would not. If one of the ones too removed from my views wins the nomination, I will be voting third party again.

Whatever makes you feel good... I guess.

But if you want to get trump out of office and punish the GOP to force them to become more the party of Charlie Sykes and Bill Kristol and less the party of Trump and Hannity, then voting Democratic is the only way to go.

Mitch and the boys need to see electoral losses throughout the nation over the next voting cycle or two to change. It might take them losing both the senate and White House for them to realize that the direction the GOP must go in isn’t Trumpism but abiding by the findings of the 2012 autopsy.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/donald-trump-gop-party-reform-220222

The report — the product of 2,600 interviews with voters, experts, party officials and business leaders, as well as a poll of Hispanic Republicans and an online survey of 36,000 stakeholders — was remarkable for its blunt criticism of Republican politics. The party, the report’s five authors argued, had become the realm of "stuffy old men" and spent too much time "talking to itself" rather than engaging new voters. Backing immigration reform, the authors concluded, would be necessary to shed that image. "If we do not, our Party’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only," the authors wrote.
 
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“Thriller, are you really advocating for voters to vote against even “moderate” republicans? Remind us why we should do that. You sound so extreme and radical. Why do you advocate for punishing all members of the Republican Party? You’re so librule!

Remind us Thrill why we should do that!”



Remind us all again Thrill!

 
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