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DasJazz said:
Good thing it's never been about the man but rather the policies he would employ.
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Is there a line though? Like if he came to your house and shot your family, but had good policies then would you still support him?

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The idea of separating the person's character from their policies is stupid to me, especially when it comes to the President of the United States.

Their duties involve things way beyond what their tax plan is, or what kind of judges they'd nominate. That you'd be OK with a moral cretin as long as they are conservative enough or liberal enough is baffling to me.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say people who make this argument for Trump don't really believe it themselves. It's just an easy out for people who don't want to actually confront the fact that they support someone so awful.
 
DasJazz said:
That's not a realistic or even fair question. Come on bro.
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The question is, Is there a line or does what the president does "off the court" and what type of human being he/she is have no importance whatsoever? I think that's a fair question.

Would it be unrealistic for a president to order a drone strike that unnecessarily kills innocent people for instance? I think that's happened before.
What if it was your family?

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fishonjazz said:
The question is, Is there a line or does what the president does "off the court" and what type of human being he/she is have no importance whatsoever? I think that's a fair question.

Would it be unrealistic for a president to order a drone strike that unnecessarily kills innocent people for instance? I think that's happened before.
What if it was your family?

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Well so far everything this president has been accused of has been proven to be either wrong or a hissy fit by the left that has been taken out of context.

As for drone strikes, if it's a war zone than you have to take into account loss of life now vs potential loss of life if you don't strike the bad guys while you have them. If the gain is worth it, you take the shot, that is war, that is within ROE, and a decision that combatant commanders in the AOR have to make.

Now, I don't necessarily agree with the way President Trump delivers his messaging all of the time, but just because he is not sugarcoating it, doesn't make him wrong.
 
Zombie said:
The idea of separating the person's character from their policies is stupid to me, especially when it comes to the President of the United States.

Their duties involve things way beyond what their tax plan is, or what kind of judges they'd nominate. That you'd be OK with a moral cretin as long as they are conservative enough or liberal enough is baffling to me.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say people who make this argument for Trump don't really believe it themselves. It's just an easy out for people who don't want to actually confront the fact that they support someone so awful.
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I have no issues with proudly supporting the president of the United States. So there goes that argument.
 
DasJazz said:
Well so far everything this president has been accused of has been proven to be either wrong or a hissy fit by the left that has been taken out of context.

As for drone strikes, if it's a war zone than you have to take into account loss of life now vs potential loss of life if you don't strike the bad guys while you have them. If the gain is worth it, you take the shot, that is war, that is within ROE, and a decision that combatant commanders in the AOR have to make.

Now, I don't necessarily agree with the way President Trump delivers his messaging all of the time, but just because he is not sugarcoating it, doesn't make him wrong.
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Again, the question is a fair one and you just won't answer it. Funny how often this happens.

Is there a line or is policy and strong economy all that matters?
If a video came out of trump gang banging 12 year old girls with Epstein would that be enough for you to stop supporting him even if the economy was still kicking butt?

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fishonjazz said:
Again, the question is a fair one and you just won't answer it. Funny how often this happens.

Is there a line or is policy and strong economy all that matters?
If a video came out of trump gang banging 12 year old girls with Epstein would that be enough for you to stop supporting him even if the economy was still kicking butt?

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If he was disgusting like that than absolutely that is not acceptable on any level. I would imagine everyone would disavow him and he'd be hauled away in handcuffs and rightfully so. Also, I did answer the question before, just because you dont like the answer doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
DasJazz said:
I have no issues with proudly supporting the president of the United States. So there goes that argument.
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You've made it very clear that you don't mind supporting Donald Trump. What you are waffling on is whether or not he has good moral character, or rather, that his poor moral character is of little consequence as long as he supports conservative policies.
 
Zombie said:
You've made it very clear that you don't mind supporting Donald Trump. What you are waffling on is whether or not he has good moral character, or rather, that his poor moral character is of little consequence as long as he supports conservative policies.
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I don't believe that he has done anything in office that would make anyone who can see through the liberal agenda question whether or not he is doing a good job.

And as for moral character, etc. I can easily make the same arguments with different issues from previous presidents as well. Even the last one.
 
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