I feel like "This is so unnecessary" is perfect. It calls him out in a way that even republicans can get behind.
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I feel like "This is so unnecessary" is perfect. It calls him out in a way that even republicans can get behind.
This is an argument that speaking out very vocally can make a difference. I agree completely with that, and in fact that's one of the main reasons why I started this thread and why I like/repost a ton of anti-Trump stuff on Twitter.
It's not an argument that who you personally actually vote for makes a difference. It doesn't. That's a statistical certainty.
But we've beat this horse to death, so I'm willing to let it lie as long as others do.
I'm torn. That was indeed my first reaction. But now I'm leaning towards something is better than nothing, even if the something is incredibly small.
Yes. A lot of people whose opinions I respect, respect him.
Zombie
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Maybe I'm just cynical, but I don't buy it when former members of his administration try to rehabilitate their image with weak criticisms after leaving.
Like, he's not doing anything different now than when she worked for him so she could pad her resume for 2024.
Yet, Trump doesn't enjoy even close majority support among black Americans. This is what republicans do... And Trump especially does. Find a group of black Americans that agree with him, then define it as "see, all black people support Trump."
There's where the problems arise, you can't use this video to define how black Americans feel about Trump.
That would be like me getting a few of my friends together and making a video that said "Trump is a Nazi" and then posting that video here and saying "see Americans think Trump is a Nazi"
That video you posted is straight up propaganda to feed you exactly what you want to believe.
There is always an exception to everything... Hence why there are tiny communities of people that like to piss on each other for sexual arousal... Yet, it sounds like you'd take some video of a human pissing on another human and say... See, tons of people support pissing on each other.
Red
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It is great news. It was due to his lack of real qualifications, and his exaggerations about his role fighting terrorists. But, I don't believe it was due to his full throated support of Trump's/state media's Deep State alt history. It's important that the next DNI fully support the conclusions of the Mueller Report documenting Russian interference, and the Senate Intelligence Committee report.
Red
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Sorry, that isn't the "opposite". Those are "exceptions" to the majority.
Opposite and exceptions. There's a difference.
Yes. Trump thanks tens of thousands of people just like you for the presidency.
I'm not responsible for anyone's vote but mine. So please tell me, would Trump have not been elected if I had voted differently?
For that matter, how about your vote... would the outcome have been any different at all if you had voted third party instead of for Clinton? (assuming that's how you voted)
The Thriller
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I thought his questions at Mueller were sincere. I also thought he gave the impression that he wasn’t trying to trick Mueller into scoring a touchdown for his team. Which means he was literally the only republican to take the hearing seriously.
The Thriller
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It’s not just voting for the president. It’s also voting for his/her party. Trump and Trumpism is a symptom of the disease. The disease being a Republican Party that has chased out moderates and intellectuals (people who used to provide good ideas), corrupted by horrible socially awkward anti-government billionaires (Mercers, Adelsons, Kochs), given up its independence to a symbiotic relationship to hate radio and Fox News, and has let the southern strategy of wooing racists go unchecked for 40 years.
So even if you voted third party for president, who did you vote for locally? Since you’re from utah county, did you vote to elect trump enabler and republican John Curtis? Did you vote for mitt Romney and mike Lee? Have you donated to the Republican Party?
Even if Trump were impeached and indicted tomorrow, Trumpism would still reign in the GOP. Racism, corruption, and ant-intellectualism would still be running rampant.
The only way to fix the GOP is to reject it wholesale, locally and nationally. They must see devastating elections to force the party leadership to change.
BTW, trust me, doing what you can helps you feel good. One of the happiest times I’ve had in politics recently was working with Ben McAdams to end Mia Love’s miserable political career. Funny, Ben is now the most popular politician from our state. It’s almost as if... not enabling trump and standing for decency is a good thing! Meanwhile, Mitt’s spineless approach has given him the lowest approval rating of all our politicians.
The Thriller
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Maybe there’s a misunderstanding here, but I criticized her calling trump out for being so weak.
The Thriller
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@colton
This is exactly why I advocate completely rejecting the entire GOP:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/02/first-gop-shrinks-then-it-gets-crushed/
Jennifer Rubin is a conservative btw
This is exactly why I advocate completely rejecting the entire GOP:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/02/first-gop-shrinks-then-it-gets-crushed/
Jennifer Rubin is a conservative btw
DasJazz
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The Democrats tried this and ended up with The Squad. Careful what you wish for is the lesson here.
The Thriller
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Huh? Once again you show up to class with lazy and sloppy work.
Literally all four members of the squad took over seats that were already held by Democrats. In Rep. Pressley’s position, no Republican even ran against her. So I fail to see how your analogy is in the same solar system to what I and jennifer Rubin are advocating for.
DasJazz
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You fail to see the similarities in how wanting younger reps who are more than likely not ready for the show to shake things up a bit could wind up netting a result such as the absolute embarrassment that is the squad? Hence, the careful what you wish for. Sorry that you're so confused.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for term limits but the analogy is simple enough if you just look at what was said. The odd thing is, you come back with insults and I didn't even disagree with you.