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El Paso Shooting

I don't want to get into this all day but I will explain myself. Read the first 30 pages of this thread and in my eyes it's filled with hate, bigotry, and some downright evil stances towards Trump supporters and the NRA. You know what that's fine, I get the frustration. There is rhetoric that you can link to people.

Ok let's look back at the past 7 or 8 years and the anti-Cop rhetoric that had been spewed by our politicians, athletes, and mainly the left wing. You have players represting our national team that world wide are protesting our officers. You have a guy heralded as MLK for wearing pig socks, you have officers being assinated at coffee shops, you have them being kicked out of star bucks, and other chains. You have officers having water thrown on them. You have a group yelling "smoke em like bacon. I could go on but I'll finish with you have presidential candidates calling a certain law enforcement group terrorist and Nazis.

Ok, as I said I blame the gunman 100%, but some here and especially the media say hateful rhetoric is to blame. So what's the difference here? Is this rhetoric only to blame when it's fits a narrative? I say, yes 100%. That's what I meant by the lack of media coverage.
 
One Brow said:
I heard about it. They are reporting it.

It's not getting bigger coverage for the same reason firefighters dying in a fire, or soldiers dying in a training mission, doesn't get huge play.
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It’s still the first several stories of every major news outlet in America.

I’m not sure what more needs to be said. How should it be reported to dispel this narrative that the media isn’t reporting this story? What must they do to satisfy some of you? Sacrifice goats on live tv? Wear all blue for a week? Falsely claim that law e enforcement and the judicial system treat African American and Hispanic suspects/criminals the same as whites?
 
JazzyFresh said:
Ok, as I said I blame the gunman 100%, but some here and especially the media say hateful rhetoric is to blame. So what's the difference here?.
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According to what Wes just said:

Six cops were shot. They didn’t die. they weren’t targeted because they were cops. The cops went into a narcotics bust and were shot at. Nothing more.


In El Paso a man went and targeted brown skinned folks who were shopping and the shooter said it's because he was sick of immigrants coming into America through the southern border.

See the difference?


Now if the cops were just out to dinner with their families or shopping or something and were ambushed by a gunman and were killed then that would be more similar. That isn't what happened though.

Don't go looking for bogeymen. You are better than that. I think.

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fishonjazz said:
According to what Wes just said:

Six cops were shot. They didn’t die. they weren’t targeted because they were cops. The cops went into a narcotics bust and were shot at. Nothing more.


In El Paso a man went and targeted brown skinned folks who were shopping and the shooter said it's because he was sick of immigrants coming into America through the southern border.

See the difference?


Now if the cops were just out to dinner with their families or shopping or something and were ambushed by a gunman and were killed then that would be more similar. That isn't what happened though.

Don't go looking for bogeymen. You are better than that. I think.

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So anti-Cop rhetoric is ok and shouldn't be shunned? Gotcha... Calling law enforcement terrorist and protesting world wide against them isnt fueling the flames? Putting their lives on the line all to have water poured, kneeled against, called pigs, assassinated(which has happened) should be put on the back burner?

I call double standards. You may think it's different but this anti-Cop bs is no different.
 
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JazzyFresh said:
So anti-Cop rhetoric is ok and shouldn't be shunned? Gotcha... Calling law enforcement terrorist and protesting world wide against them isnt fueling the flames? Putting their lives on the line all to have water poured, kneeled against, called pigs, assanated(which has happened) should be put on the back burner?

I call double standards. You may think it's different but this anti-Cop bs is no different.
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kneeled against?

lmfao

In all this you haven't once mentioned the people unjustly hurt and killed by police who then face no criminal repercussions.

I don't want police to be attacked, ever. But I DO want police to be held responsible.

To act like kneeling to protest unjustified police violence is an attack on police is a joke.

Kneeling is an act of submission, not aggression.
 
JazzyFresh said:
So anti-Cop rhetoric is ok and shouldn't be shunned? Gotcha... Calling law enforcement terrorist and protesting world wide against them isnt fueling the flames? Putting their lives on the line all to have water poured, kneeled against, called pigs, assanated(which has happened) should be put on the back burner?

I call double standards. You may think it's different but this anti-Cop bs is no different.
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Where was the anti cop rhetoric in these Philadelphia shootings? I didn't see any.

These cops weren't shot because the shooter was anti cop. The shooter didn't go looking for cops to shoot.
The shooter shot those cops cause the cops came after them (right so) and the shooter didn't want to go to jail.
I'm not a cop but if I would have came after the shooter and tried to take he somewhere he didn't want to go then he would have shot me too. Even though I'm not a cop. Are you able to understand this concept?

But again, I'm not seeing bogeymen everywhere either.

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fishonjazz said:
Where was the anti cop rhetoric in these Philadelphia shootings? I didn't see any.

But again, I'm not seeing bogeymen everywhere either.

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I'm speaking of the rhetoric in general. If we want to have a discussion about hateful rhetoric let's not pick and choose. If we can't have this conversation now, then when? The next time an officer gets douced? The next time an officer is in a restaurant and gets shot in the back of the head?
 
JazzyFresh said:
I'm speaking of the rhetoric in general. If we want to have a discussion about hateful rhetoric let's not pick and choose. If we can't have this conversation now, then when? The next time an officer gets douced? The next time an officer is in a restaurant and gets shot in the back of the head?
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So you agree then that this particular instance is different than the El Paso shooting and it makes sense that it isn't talked about as much.
Ok, good.

Next time someone goes walking around looking for cops to kill we will discuss that I'm sure.

What happened in Dallas a few years back got hella media coverage.
More than El Paso I would say.

I haven't even seen the El Paso thing on my TV at home or the tv at work.
I remember the Dallas indecent was on every channel everywhere I went. Couldn't not see it.

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JazzyFresh said:
So anti-Cop rhetoric is ok and shouldn't be shunned? Gotcha... Calling law enforcement terrorist and protesting world wide against them isnt fueling the flames? Putting their lives on the line all to have water poured, kneeled against, called pigs, assassinated(which has happened) should be put on the back burner?

I call double standards. You may think it's different but this anti-Cop bs is no different.
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You call double standards?

Well, I call you making stupid, wild straw man arguments to assign positions to people that they never supported or even mentioned.

Fish did NOT say being anti-cop was ok. He did NOT say it shouldn’t be shunned. He did NOT say calling them terrorist is ok. Stop with the ********.
 
Stoked said:
You call double standards?

Well, I call you making stupid, wild straw man arguments to assign positions to people that they never supported or even mentioned.

Fish did NOT say being anti-cop was ok. He did NOT say it shouldn’t be shunned. He did NOT say calling them terrorist is ok. Stop with the ********.
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Same could be applied to Trump...

Trump never said anything that El Paso killer did was ok. Never. Yet he was blamed...
 
JazzyFresh said:
Same could be applied to Trump...

Trump never said anything that El Paso killer did was ok. Never. Yet he was blamed...
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So, your justification for **** behavior is the **** behavior of others?

Be better.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Same could be applied to Trump...

Trump never said anything that El Paso killer did was ok. Never. Yet he was blamed...
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Did someone say that Trump said what the El Paso killer did was ok? I never saw that.
I also didn't see anyone blame trump for the killings.

What I did see is people say that the things Trump says can have an effect on others and that in this case the things Trump says very well might have had an influence on the shooter. Trump shouldn't say many of the things he says. I'm pretty sure you agree with that statement.

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fishonjazz said:
Did someone say that Trump said what the El Paso killer did was ok? I never saw that.
I also didn't see anyone blame trump for the killings.

What I did see is people say that the things Trump says can have an effect on others and that in this case the things Trump says very well might have had an influence on the shooter. Trump shouldn't say many of the things he says. I'm pretty sure you agree with that statement.

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Read the first 30 pages..

And I'm saying the exact same thing about our people in law enforcement. You really don't think calling them terrorist, pigs, and whatever has no influence?
 
JazzyFresh said:
Read the first 30 pages..



And I'm saying the exact same thing about our people in law enforcement. You really don't think calling them terrorist, pigs, and whatever has no influence?
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I read the first 30 pages. Didn't see anyone saying what you claim (that Trump was ok with the El Paso shooting and that Trump is the reason those people are dead)
Maybe you can quote those posts for me?


Has our president been calling the police terrorist pigs? Link please.

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str8line said:
Does anyone here think Trump has NOT emboldened these shooters? He is tearing our country apart.

It's time to call out Trump supporters for what they are. ****ing Nazis. Shame them. Blame them. They are sacrificing a nation that took so many great people hundreds of years to create. For what?
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.this disgusting post was liked by a good amount of posters
 
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The Thriller said:
Said the same thing to my wife. I even said I bet he’s a white supremacist looking to kill some immigrants.

All to predictable. He even used trump’s language, traveling to El Paso (where trump recently visited and complained about an invasion) and wrote a manifesto claiming to be fighting against an “invasion of Hispanics.” He fought this invasion by killing innocents in a damn Walmart.
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JazzyFresh said:
.this disgusting post was liked by a good amount of posters
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Do you think maybe thee likes were for the first paragraph of the post rather than the second?

Did you miss all the blowback that str8line got from the "libs" for calling all Trump supporters Nazis?

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fishonjazz said:
Do you think maybe thee likes were for the first paragraph of the post rather than the second?

Did you miss all the blowback that str8line got from the "libs" for calling all Trump supporters Nazis?

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"Does anyone here think Trump has NOT emboldened these shooters? He is tearing our country apart."

So you admit that people are blaming Trump... How are you not?
 
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