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Harambe said:
Lurking and counfounding variables not included; age breakdown, political leaning numbers out of 1000, state breakdown, "what you know" varies from person to person. And the fact that there's a third option; Impeach / Don't remove
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Actually, real wages are up somewhere 4-5 percent whereas they were DOWN several years under OBAMA. They had to change the natural rate of unemployment definition to accommodate interest rate policy under Trump cause the economy was doing so well and unemployment remained so low. Federal tax revenue is UP and economists estimate the economy from TCJA will be 0.8-1.2% higher per year a full 10 years in the future from Trump. Now with Arterm Sytnik's testimony out admitting to helping Hillary and the DNC do exactly what they created a fake Russia investigation into Trump over I dont see what you are getting at, not with a straight face anyway. They have been exposed by your very own definition of campaign fraud and exposed their internal destruction of are democratic institutions. Trump will win you caused this with your boy who cried wolf fanaticism!
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Actually, real wages are up somewhere 4-5 percent whereas they were DOWN several years under OBAMA. They had to change the natural rate of unemployment definition to accommodate interest rate policy under Trump cause the economy was doing so well and unemployment remained so low. Federal tax revenue is UP and economists estimate the economy from TCJA will be 0.8-1.2% higher per year a full 10 years in the future from Trump. Now with Arterm Sytnik's testimony out admitting to helping Hillary and the DNC do exactly what they created a fake Russia investigation into Trump over I dont see what you are getting at, not with a straight face anyway. They have been exposed by your very own definition of campaign fraud and exposed their internal destruction of are democratic institutions. Trump will win you caused this with your boy who cried wolf fanaticism!
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You know, I've let it slide, and gone along with "we just have different measures".

But you've overplayed. The economy is not "doing so much better" under Trump than other presidents since Bush1.0/Early Clinton. Using your model of "Real Wages", as outlined by the bureau of labor and statistics (Average weekly earnings of production and nonsupervisory employees, 1982-84 dollars, total private, seasonally adjusted), boomed in '73, fell sharply '75, '82, and '91. It has not recovered since '73, and under every president since Clinton's first term, there's been ups and downs, but largely universal ups. Saying it is, is similar to saying climate change is not real because this year is colder than last. Once you look on a realistic time line, and not only what you want to point out, you have a bigger nose than I have ****. Which is to say pretty damn big.

There is no grand conspiracy against a guy that's ****ing average. There's a guy that needs to beg, borrow, cheat, and steal to almost reach to an average level.
 
Harambe said:
You know, I've let it slide, and gone along with "we just have different measures".

But you've overplayed. The economy is not "doing so much better" under Trump than other presidents since Bush1.0/Early Clinton. Using your model of "Real Wages", as outlined by the bureau of labor and statistics (Average weekly earnings of production and nonsupervisory employees, 1982-84 dollars, total private, seasonally adjusted), boomed in '73, fell sharply '75, '82, and '91. It has not recovered since '73, and under every president since Clinton's first term, there's been ups and downs, but largely universal ups. Saying it is, is similar to saying climate change is not real because this year is colder than last. Once you look on a realistic time line, and not only what you want to point out, you have a bigger nose than I have ****. Which is to say pretty damn big.

There is no grand conspiracy against a guy that's ****ing average. There's a guy that needs to beg, borrow, cheat, and steal to almost reach to an average level.
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"NOTICE This database is currently unavailable" Hah, nice try! You cannot defeat me with a broken link!

You cannot lie here, real wages are under Trump. Real wages are up despite your broken source, just ask Congressional Research Service Real Wage Trends, 1979 to 2018 up continuously and steadily since 1978, up 37.6% for the 90th percentile but only 1.6% for the top 10%, the rich! It's all there, all in Table 1, on page 4!

You know, when the greater apes let go their serious facade, they really arent raping each other all day long. Many of the females are even bisexual and often fondle each others privates. With chickens, it's all a violent "show" as well. The male violently tackles the female with a behold around her neck, and goes to town. But you know what, the females first give him the go ahead, **** me silly signal whst with their wings spreading and head ducking low, and all the other jealous females try to kick the hell out of him while he is doing his thing. You think they srent doing this for the 50.1% to 49.9% win, or even the 50.0001 to 49.9999 victory? This transpermitationism juxtaposing bellwether stereocarierism is all a show too, but at least the real wage data is something the common man can hang his hat on every night, ya know? A real, tangible thing.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
"NOTICE This database is currently unavailable" Hah, nice try! You cannot defeat me with a broken link!

You cannot lie here, real wages are under Trump. Real wages are up despite your broken source, just ask Congressional Research Service Real Wage Trends, 1979 to 2018 up continuously and steadily since 1978, up 37.6% for the 90th percentile but only 1.6% for the top 10%, the rich! It's all there, all in Table 1, on page 4!

You know, when the greater apes let go their serious facade, they really arent raping each other all day long. Many of the females are even bisexual and often fondle each others privates. With chickens, it's all a violent "show" as well. The male violently tackles the female with a behold around her neck, and goes to town. But you know what, the females first give him the go ahead, **** me silly signal whst with their wings spreading and head ducking low, and all the other jealous females try to kick the hell out of him while he is doing his thing. You think they srent doing this for the 50.1% to 49.9% win, or even the 50.0001 to 49.9999 victory? This transpermitationism juxtaposing bellwether stereocarierism is all a show too, but at least the real wage data is something the common man can hang his hat on every night, ya know? A real, tangible thing.
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It's available. I was just silly enough to provide you the link that showed up after I selected a time frame. Try this one. You'll need to adjust back to the 60's manually, but you'll see it.

Lets do one better. Attachment!

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It doesn't look like Jason allows attaching excel files, so if you'll share with me your google account, I'll share the spreadsheet with you.
 
Oh yeah ok talk about cherry picking haha. If you are gonna then maybe don't pick a graphic that shows real wages up, up, up under Trump and cuts off all those years of decline under Obama. You can't lie to the man hanging his hat, he knows otherwise!

And before you go all greater ape on me, the FESAC has studied the differences between the CES and the CPOPSURV so you cant give me your hogwash that we are simply using a different measure!
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Oh yeah ok talk about cherry picking haha. If you are gonna then maybe don't pick a graphic that shows real wages up, up, up under Trump and cuts off all those years of decline under Obama. You can't lie to the man hanging his hat, he knows otherwise!

And before you go all greater ape on me, the FESAC has studied the differences between the CES and the CPOPSURV so you cant give me your hogwash that we are simply using a different measure!
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You were the one who used real wage dollars. You cherry picked that one.

On probably a more embarrassing note, I'm really not sure what the Fusion Energy Sciences Advisory Committee contributed to this argument. Or the Consumer Electronics Show. Or even what a CPOPSURV is.
 
Harambe said:
You were the one who used real wage dollars. You cherry picked that one.

On probably a more embarrassing note, I'm really not sure what the Fusion Energy Sciences Advisory Committee contributed to this argument. Or the Consumer Electronics Show. Or even what a CPOPSURV is.
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What? I'm talking about perception and reality. The op was about independents, and this case perception and reality are lining up much more than normal. Not you, I know you dont really care about the details inside the real wage discussion.

How you been Roach? How's the cows?
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
You cannot lie here, real wages are under Trump. Real wages are up despite your broken source, just ask Congressional Research Service Real Wage Trends, 1979 to 2018 up continuously and steadily since 1978, up 37.6% for the 90th percentile but only 1.6% for the top 10%, the rich! It's all there, all in Table 1, on page 4!
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I know you are smart enough to know you reversed these numbers. The 90th percentile wage amount (people who make more than 90% of the population) is the one that is up 37.6%, while the 10th and 50th are up 1.6% and 6.1% since 1979.
 
One Brow said:
I know you are smart enough to know you reversed these numbers. The 90th percentile wage amount (people who make more than 90% of the population) is the one that is up 37.6%, while the 10th and 50th are up 1.6% and 6.1% since 1979.
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Well, he didn't catch on with the first post and seemed to take it seriously so I doubled down. I'm pretty sure the Fed lowered what they consider full employment long before Trump took office, but dont recall exactly when that was.

Anyway, thank for the compliment but I'm obviously not very bright if I'm commenting in an impeach Trump thread.

Y'all have a good weekend!
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
What? I'm talking about perception and reality. The op was about independents, and this case perception and reality are lining up much more than normal. Not you, I know you dont really care about the details inside the real wage discussion.

How you been Roach? How's the cows?
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Your mom's fine.
 
One Brow said:
I know you are smart enough to know you reversed these numbers. The 90th percentile wage amount (people who make more than 90% of the population) is the one that is up 37.6%, while the 10th and 50th are up 1.6% and 6.1% since 1979.
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You just ****ing ruined it
 
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