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The Official: Trade Conley and Exum for Lillard.

Jazz said:
You're missing the point... He doesn't even have the confidence to shoot......
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sounds like an issue in the Australian high school basketball program Simmons and Exum both got it.

He sucks as a shooter... always has... likely always will. Up until a couple years ago even his layups looked awkward as hell. He is fast and long... might be enough for him to be a bench player if he stays healthy. Outside of that he’s bad or meh... we’d have been much better off selecting someone else in that draft or letting him walk.

I want him to be good... he plays for the team I like... but it’d be much better for him to figure out basketball somewhere else.
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
sounds like an issue in the Australian high school basketball program .
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Doubt it is all program to blame, they had very decent shooters come out from Australia - Mills, Ingles, Delly, even Baynes now hitting 3's like crazy. I remember they had this dude Shane Hill in 90's - he was lights out shooter. Exum and Simmons are more exception to the rule TBH.
 
Jazz said:
You're missing the point... He doesn't even have the confidence to shoot......
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sounds like an issue in the Australian high school basketball program Simmons and Exum both got it.

He sucks as a shooter... always has... likely always will. Up until a couple years ago even his layups looked awkward as hell. He is fast and long... might be enough for him to be a bench player if he stays healthy. Outside of that he’s bad or meh... we’d have been much better off selecting someone else in that draft or letting him walk.

I want him to be good... he plays for the team I like... but it’d be much better for him to figure out basketball somewhere else if we could get something for him. Sadly no one shares your visions of what he could be... otherwise we could get a haul for him.
 
MVP said:
Doubt it is all program to blame, they had very decent shooters come out from Australia - Mills, Ingles, Delly, even Baynes now hitting 3's like crazy. I remember they had this dude Shane Hill in 90's - he was lights out shooter. Exum and Simmons are more exception to the rule TBH.
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I'm just joking of course... I have no idea what the HS programs are like in Australia.
 
Dali said:
Of course the generalization thing must be strictly an American thing...
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I apologize to all of Australia generally... I just wanted to get off some Simmons jokes. I hope you can accept my apology... I have been a supporter of your King Lord Joseph English III for quite some time.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I apologize to all of Australia generally... I just wanted to get off some Simmons jokes. I hope you can accept my apology... I have been a supporter of your King Lord Joseph English III for quite some time.
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Please accept my apologies too, America is cool. Hollywood resides there afterall.
 
Wineo said:
really, what has he done besides develop Mitchell, Rudy was already there
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Rudy was here when Quin got here but he was a completely different player, his development under Quin has been nothing short of amazing. Hayward developed into an all star, George Hill had by far the best year of his career, Ingles and O'neale were picked up off the scrap heap and developed into very good players, Rubio became a better player, Bogdanovic is on pace to have the best year of his career. He's also led us to two 50 win seasons and three straight playoff appearances, including two series wins as the underdog.
 
Jingled said:
Rudy was here when Quin got here but he was a completely different player, his development under Quin has been nothing short of amazing. Hayward developed into an all star, George Hill had by far the best year of his career, Ingles and O'neale were picked up off the scrap heap and developed into very good players, Rubio became a better player, Bogdanovic is on pace to have the best year of his career. He's also led us to two 50 win seasons and three straight playoff appearances, including two series wins as the underdog.
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Yeah but what has he done lately?
 
Jazz said:
U idiot lol
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MVP said:
Doubt it is all program to blame, they had very decent shooters come out from Australia - Mills, Ingles, Delly, even Baynes now hitting 3's like crazy. I remember they had this dude Shane Hill in 90's - he was lights out shooter. Exum and Simmons are more exception to the rule TBH.
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Shane Heal dude You know there was also this guy called Andrew Gaze who could kinda shoot

Really Simmons and Dante are really the two exceptions.
 
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There have been many success stories under Quin. Royce, Joe, Donovan, Rudy even though he was already here doesn't mean he wasn't developed well under Quin, Hayward as we had turned him into an all star, Mudiay even though it's early has the same trajectory of playing his best basketball in his whole career with us. Etc etc.

And hopefully down the line, which is going to take a bunch of time, Bradley will also be in that list. Not something crazy like a starter quality player, but a very serviceable back up.
 
Exum will likely go down as the Andrei Kirilenko of this decade. Except Kirilenko had a few good years, an all star selection, and a number of unique statistical things under his belt that’s keeping people arguing how mismanaged he was. Die hard Dante fans may have 4 minutes of playoff time guarding Harden and a summer league to hang their arguments on.

In 10 years, vicious arguments will break out regarding Exum, and a contingent of JFC will argue how much potential he really had and how Quin mismanaged him. The other side will argue that there was nothing to base that on. More moderate posters, who also know better, will point to small sample sizes of defense to extrapolate into defensive stopper.
 
infection said:
Exum will likely go down as the Andrei Kirilenko of this decade. Except Kirilenko had a few good years, an all star selection, and a number of unique statistical things under his belt that’s keeping people arguing how mismanaged he was. Die hard Dante fans may have 4 minutes of playoff time guarding Harden and a summer league to hang their arguments on.

In 10 years, vicious arguments will break out regarding Exum, and a contingent of JFC will argue how much potential he really had and how Quin mismanaged him. The other side will argue that there was nothing to base that on. More moderate posters, who also know better, will point to small sample sizes of defense to extrapolate into defensive stopper.
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Here's how I'll remember Exum: Bust.
 
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