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Jeff Green has been waived

All things said about Ingles including not an actual nba player yada yada yada. Look at his per 36 mins. He’s averaging 11 min a game. Hard to get in a rhythm within the offense and flow of a game playing that many minutes. Once he’s playing 20-25 min all his numbers will go up.

What are his per 36?
 
Why?

He was straight trash, and didn’t give any effort whatsoever. That’s more damaging to a team than just having a bad attitude.

Not trying trumps everything. Your insufferable whining about green being dumped on his sanctimonious *** is idiotic. We were losing with him on the floor, if he’s better off riding the bench the team is better off cutting his ***!!!

This makes me sooooo happy. Niang needs more minutes, and opens a door for my favorite player, Brantley.

Wtf are we gambling?


We don’t here from LoPo for ever, the jazz make a trade and there he is. He’s a trade Groupie.
Yawn. I only chimed in because it's big news. I'm doing my best to avoid the toxic culture of the forum.

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What are his per 36?
13.7 points per game (46% from the field and 42% from 3)
5.2 rebounds
1.3 assists
0.5 steals
0.4 blocks
1.7 turnovers
70% from the line on 1.3 attempts.

So like has been said before, the problem with niang is that he does one thing and one thing only. Shoot threes.
Doesn't rebound, doesn't defend, doesn't create, doesn't get to the line, isn't a screener.....
His list of good skills is a list of one. His list of bad attributes goes on and on.

And the one good skill is extremely easy to stop if the opponents ever get scared of niang going off (lol). Just stay by him and you render him useless for the most part.


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Still trying to find the silver lining here, none to be found. Those that say we're freeing up money - WRONG!!!! We're eating the guys' full 2.5 mil according to sources unless somebody claims him within 48 hrs which I think is unlikely. Has the guy's stock gone down so drastically that we couldn't even salvage something for our asset? I think we probably just didn't try that hard. Our organization is impulsive and OCD to the max, just look at the way we stalked "EZ Money Mike"....with blinders on to everything else that was out there that wouldn't have completely complicated our financial future. So my thinking on this is that they tried like Hell to throw Green in on the Clarkson deal and Cavs said No Way! So because Dennis or JZ or Quinn had their heart set on developing this Tucker kid before somebody else grabbed him, we put Green on waivers two days before Christmas.

Will this move motivate or disenfranchise our players? Green seemed to be well liked from what I could tell from his on-court interactions with players like Ingles, Mitch and Gobert. How about Conley, that was his boy - what do they say about not mixing business with friendship? Whatever it was, the front office didn't pay attention. Did we even need this JZ? Seems like Dennis did a better job of constructing a roster when he was flying solo.
 
13.7 points per game (46% from the field and 42% from 3)
5.2 rebounds
1.3 assists
0.5 steals
0.4 blocks
1.7 turnovers
70% from the line on 1.3 attempts.

So like has been said before, the problem with niang is that he does one thing and one thing only. Shoot threes.
Doesn't rebound, doesn't defend, doesn't create, doesn't get to the line, isn't a screener.....
His list of good skills is a list of one. His list of bad attributes goes on and on.

And the one good skill is extremely easy to stop if the opponents ever get scared of niang going off (lol). Just stay by him and you render him useless for the most part.


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Yeah, well said. Truly cant understand what Quin and the team sees here.
 
Yes you idiot!! Explain to me how this team is conservative? This should be interesting

First of all name calling fool look how long the exum saga took to complete ? Make sense dumbo ?

We don't make drastic moves, this last off season was the biggest we've ever had. We build in the draft try to sign develop etc this exum now green happenings are not the norm for us. If you don't realize that well continue on smoking that crack
 
First of all name calling fool look how long the exum saga took to complete ? Make sense dumbo ?

We don't make drastic moves, this last off season was the biggest we've ever had. We build in the draft try to sign develop etc this exum now green happenings are not the norm for us. If you don't realize that well continue on smoking that crack
Rotfl
 
Still trying to find the silver lining here, none to be found. Those that say we're freeing up money - WRONG!!!! We're eating the guys' full 2.5 mil according to sources unless somebody claims him within 48 hrs which I think is unlikely. Has the guy's stock gone down so drastically that we couldn't even salvage something for our asset? I think we probably just didn't try that hard. Our organization is impulsive and OCD to the max, just look at the way we stalked "EZ Money Mike"....with blinders on to everything else that was out there that wouldn't have completely complicated our financial future. So my thinking on this is that they tried like Hell to throw Green in on the Clarkson deal and Cavs said No Way! So because Dennis or JZ or Quinn had their heart set on developing this Tucker kid before somebody else grabbed him, we put Green on waivers two days before Christmas.

Will this move motivate or disenfranchise our players? Green seemed to be well liked from what I could tell from his on-court interactions with players like Ingles, Mitch and Gobert. How about Conley, that was his boy - what do they say about not mixing business with friendship? Whatever it was, the front office didn't pay attention. Did we even need this JZ? Seems like Dennis did a better job of constructing a roster when he was flying solo.

I'm also wondering how this might affect team chemistry. Everyone was saying that Donovan was gassed last night, but it looked like something was bothering him in the fourth quarter. Maybe he had learned that they waived Green and that was it. Also, the Conley factor. Green and him are friends, and Mike is turning into another Exum. Maybe we have decided to tank? In any case, unless Green asked to be released, this sounds like a rash decision.
 
You'd never hear that being said about guys like Kobe.
Also, this is a huge part of being a leader. I get DM is 23, and watched Jeff Green play as a kid.....and I'm sure Jeff is a really nice guy and that's great. But Karl also probably thought Ostertag was a nice guy but still correctly called him a lazy fat *** when he showed up to work out of shape. Donovan and Rudy need to hold their teammates to a greater standard than just being a nice guy. If he was such a great teammate he wouldn't have been continually getting beat on backdoor screens, giving no effort on defense, and leaving the starters with an absolute mess after not giving a **** during his minutes most the time.
 
I’m still having some trouble giving this positive spin. Green was not worse than Niang or Davis. We have **** for 4s and he was the closest thing we had to one. He had to have asked out. That’s bad.

And how is adding two combo guards an answer to this?
 
I'm also wondering how this might affect team chemistry. Everyone was saying that Donovan was gassed last night, but it looked like something was bothering him in the fourth quarter. Maybe he had learned that they waived Green and that was it. Also, the Conley factor. Green and him are friends, and Mike is turning into another Exum. Maybe we have decided to tank? In any case, unless Green asked to be released, this sounds like a rash decision.
Lol no....there's no way in hell he found out while the game was going on. As for team chemistry? Start by giving effort for your teammates. As I said above. If Green was a great teammate he would have given more effort for his teammates. Judging by tweets from fans from other places he played they really dislike the guy and say the same thing. He doesn't play defense and lacks effort. Memphis fans hate him. Joe and Donovan both made posts about how good of a teammate he was, and I'm sure he was a nice guy. He was also a big reason they were being left with a mess to clean up. Sorry guys, Green was not good, and his lack of effort defensively was terrible.
 
I’m still having some trouble giving this positive spin. Green was not worse than Niang or Davis. We have **** for 4s and he was the closest thing we had to one. He had to have asked out. That’s bad.

And how is adding two combo guards an answer to this?
Eh, Joe Johnson did the same thing essentially. Sometimes things just don't work out or aren't the right fit, or circumstances change. It seems like it was very mutual considering the fact he was released in the city he lives. And honestly releasing him and doing right by a league veteran is the better thing to do.
 
I’m having a little trouble with the timing. No matter how you look at it, trading or waiving somebody 2 days before Christmas is cold as f. Just brutal.
Someone posted here that he lives in Miami and his wife is there. He basically took an Uber home to spend xmas with his family.
 
I remember Locke kept prefacing this before the season. He kept mentioning how before we had a lot of guys who played hard or they wouldn't be in the league. Now we had talented guys, and we'll see if they play as hard. Green is talented. He doesn't try hard, and from the fans of every team he's been on they say the same about him. There's a reason his market was a minimum contract. Teams see it.
 
Also, this is a huge part of being a leader. I get DM is 23, and watched Jeff Green play as a kid.....and I'm sure Jeff is a really nice guy and that's great. But Karl also probably thought Ostertag was a nice guy but still correctly called him a lazy fat *** when he showed up to work out of shape. Donovan and Rudy need to hold their teammates to a greater standard than just being a nice guy. If he was such a great teammate he wouldn't have been continually getting beat on backdoor screens, giving no effort on defense, and leaving the starters with an absolute mess after not giving a **** during his minutes most the time.
They weren' talking about his play.
 
They weren' talking about his play.
I know that, but I think Donovan and Rudy are too nice. The league has changed but if you want to win hold your guys accountable. Jerry, John, Karl would have called the effort our bench is giving out in a second and would have done it to their face. You should hold your teammates accountable. He wasn't being a good teammate. He was part of what was causing you both to play over 35 minutes a night and clean up a terrible mess every time the bench was out there, and much of it was because he wasn't giving effort or being disciplined with what he was doing out there on the court. I simply think both of them are too nice to call a spade a spade. Several guys are and have been giving ****** effort, and it's on the franchise players to not be okay with that.
 
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