The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[silesian]

But if your son could get away with that mean thing, would he “joke around” about it? Meaning, if you stopped getting on his case about his poor behavior being mean, shocking, or unacceptable, would that “joke” become normal and acceptable behavior?

yeah he gets busted every time. Trump cultists enable adolescent IMPOTUS

 

[The Thriller]

More evidence that Trump was abusing power for personal (political) benefit. if anti-corruption was truly the goal, why was he so secretive about this? Why would his own cabinet plead with him to release the money? Why would senators be investigating why the aid had been stopped?

 

[One Brow]

According to what I heard there were people there whose goal was to keep the statues in place.

So, still terrible people.

If (or should I say when) there are marches to remove statues of patriots like Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc. because they did not denounce slavery I would be on the side of those who want the statues to remain, even if there are white nationalists and other putrid groups who also happen to align on that side of the argument.

Make sure you let us know when such a march happens.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

How convenient. Seems like this administration says lots of stupid things. Like on a daily basis. Maybe they are just stupid

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You used to be a reasonable guy. Sad what your interest in politics has done to you. Just so you know, Huckabee (like everyone else) does not speak for anyone but himself. I am not following this non-story, but as far as I know (and I only know this much because people on this site are making such a big deal about it), Huckabee is standing on an island on this one. I'm certain you see no reason you should have to defend every dumb thing a liberal politician or commentator says or has said simply because you are liberal too.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

The smokescreen of “unite the right” being really about the first amendment or statues.

These are cover stories that white nationalists hide behind, knowing fully that they are lies to hide the ugly bigotry and hatred. I frankly don’t believe that even the most gullible trump cultists believe this.

Thank you for so convincingly and adamantly proving my point.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

ahhhhh yes. I knew this was coming. So predictable.

And now we’re back to treating the world’s most powerful man sitting on top of 2,000 nukes as a dumb 15 year old child. We’re back to rationalizing his rhetoric as, “joking.”

• Just as we did when he “joked” about sexually harassing women.
• Just as we did when he “joked” in July 2015 about Russia finding Hillary’s emails.
• Just as we did when he “joked” about loving Wikileaks, an organization working with Russian intelligence against us.

• Just as we did when he “joked” about being able to shoot someone and get away with it.
• Just as we did when he “joked” about pardoning criminals who didn’t flip on him or ICE officers committing Crimes against humanity.
• Just as we did when he “joked” about China investigating the Bidens.

And now he’s “joking” about getting additional terms. Riiiighttt.

The funny thing is, he isn’t laughing when he’s telling these unfunny jokes. It feels like he’s testing the waters. The real joke is that dimwitted adults, like you, continuously excuse such deplorable behavior from the world’s most powerful man and rationalize it as mere “joking.”

When will Trump stop “joking” and actually lead? We didn’t elect him to be a comedian, right? Or maybe you did because you’re an unserious and immature person? That’s just one of the few reasons how I can see why anyone could support trump. They’re just unserious and immature.

Btw, here’s list of many of Trump’s “jokes.”

and a chilling reminder of what happens when we “joke” about things that we shouldn’t:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/08/laughing-all-the-way-to-autocracy-jokes-trump-dictatorship/


let’s learn from history and not normalize and joke about Trump’s corrupt behavior or autocratic tendencies.

You are so unhinged.

 

[babe]

babe, let's get it straight, I have no agenda. You've gotta know that.

denial is a common aspect of everyone's thinking about stuff which crosses emotional or fantastical values. I wouldn't have said that if your positions are not very consistent and in the fashion of an objectively identifiable set of world visions deemed worthy of support.

 

[babe]

Have you been living in a cave for 3 years? Anything Trump wants, Republicans will support. Whether it be blowing up the debt, trashing military and intelligence officers, or supporting Russia. Trump is the Republican Party. If Trump today demanded additional terms, you don’t think that wouldn’t find significant support on Fox News, am radio, and House representatives (Nunes, Meadows, Gym Jordan)? Seriously???

and as always, I bring the receipts (unlike you).

https://theweek.com/articles/785361/how-trump-changing-republican-party-values



And

https://morningconsult.com/2019/11/07/state-of-the-republican-party-is-trumpism-permanent/

Last and certainly most hilarious:

You are nuts to consider Republicans anything like Trump. Trump ran as a Republican, to the mortificatopm of the insiders of the Republican/Rockefeller partisans, and drew significant support across party lines. Most old line Republicans are looking for a return to normalcy and locking out the nutjob workers and tea baggers.

The USMCA trade agreement, the emerging China trade deal, and probably the US/British deal will make a lot of democrat partisans quite pleased. Jobs and Commerce, and Corporatae Profits, in the place of leveling the US legally and economically into virtual third world communism.

Graham is an old line chameleon going with whatever, but he is coming out against the crazies on the left.

 

[babe]

Supplant. Agenda. Grabs. Solid. Credibility. Progressive. Discredited. Enthusiasts. Criminal Actions. Disenfranchise. Suplant.

babe, read those words again. You're better than this. Settle down.

Hillary's use of a private server to do her government business, and Obama using it too.... and then destroying it when it was under a court enforced subpoena..... and a lot of tax evasion with the Clinton Foundation, and Obama's use of his office to effect a dump-and-pump stock manipulation on coal stocks..... publicly announcing and using his influence with agency regulators while he and/or his partners had shorted the stocks.... and about a thousand other things..... criminal felonies. Hillary and Obama are the most criminal politicians we have ever had in any public office.

Progressive ideologues with fantasies of Marxist utopias and closely-held personal power and wealth.... unbelievable.... false as hell. Nobody should buy that kind of thinking. Discredited by every actual effort to implement such governance. fALSE TO HUMAN NATURE AND CRIMINAL IN OPPRESSION OF HUMAN BEINGS.

I get it you went to college and you believe stuff you read, and want to believe, and love as some vision of a "better world" in your mind.

I'm just asking you to think it over.

 

[fishonjazz]

You used to be a reasonable guy. Sad what your interest in politics has done to you. Just so you know, Huckabee (like everyone else) does not speak for anyone but himself. I am not following this non-story, but as far as I know (and I only know this much because people on this site are making such a big deal about it), Huckabee is standing on an island on this one. I'm certain you see no reason you should have to defend every dumb thing a liberal politician or commentator says or has said simply because you are liberal too.

Im just saying. Its amazing how often you can use that excuse. They say so much stupid stuff that you can just pick and choose what to write off and what to take seriously. Its very convenient


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[Red]

What a piss poor Commander-in-Chief:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/...her-video.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld&smtyp=cur

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/27/politics/eddie-gallagher-navy-seals-video-interviews/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e7e0f0-28c9-11ea-b2ca-2e72667c1741_story.html

“FREAKING EVIL.” That is how Special Operator First Class Craig Miller described Eddie Gallagher, the chief of his Navy SEAL platoon. Then, he wept.

The New York Times last week revealed investigative video recordings of testimony from members of SEAL Team 7 who reported behavior from Chief Petty Officer Gallagher that they believed violated the spirit of their profession and the rule of military law. These agonizing accounts make even more appalling President Trump’s unprecedented decision to reverse Chief Gallagher’s demotion and pardon two other service members convicted of war crimes this fall, and to preserve Chief Gallagher’s Trident pin by preempting the plans of Navy commanders.

The SEALs’ descriptions portray a fighter unhinged from the military’s mission of defending the nation and dedicated instead to his own desire to spill blood. Chief Gallagher, SEALs said, purposely exposed his soldiers to enemy fire and thought casualties in his platoon could win him a Silver Star. They said he bragged that “burqas were flying” when he shot at women and boasted after an operation that he had killed four of them — with the excuse that he had fired warning shots first. Other members of the platoon, they said, began to spend their days trying to “save civilians from Eddie.

The SEALs called Chief Gallagher a “psychopath.” He was “toxic.” He was “literally the worst of the worst.” His priority for the tour? “War stories at the end.” His motivation? “To kill anybody he can.”

These men broke the customary code of silence maintained by the SEALs because they thought Chief Gallagher’s behavior violated something more sacred: the duty of the men and women who fight for the United States to fight for it honorably. It’s this sacred duty that the president ridicules by allowing “Fox & Friends” and other right-wing media to lobby him into excusing — even rewarding — ethical lapses. What does this say to any soldier who wants to speak up about wrongdoing? Those who tried to hold Chief Gallagher to account are suffering insults on national television, while the petty officer, now retired with full honors, is palling around with the president at Mar-a-Lago.

The story is of a commander in chief who has shown little respect for the chain of command, and little regard for the imperative of military professionalism and virtue. But it’s also the story of individual service members who knew better — and did better. “Let’s not forget there are 7-12 of us in here who had the balls to tell the truth about what Eddie has done,” one of the whistleblower SEALs texted his compatriots. The rest of the country shouldn’t forget, either.

 

[Zombie]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e7e0f0-28c9-11ea-b2ca-2e72667c1741_story.html

“FREAKING EVIL.” That is how Special Operator First Class Craig Miller described Eddie Gallagher, the chief of his Navy SEAL platoon. Then, he wept.

The New York Times last week revealed investigative video recordings of testimony from members of SEAL Team 7 who reported behavior from Chief Petty Officer Gallagher that they believed violated the spirit of their profession and the rule of military law. These agonizing accounts make even more appalling President Trump’s unprecedented decision to reverse Chief Gallagher’s demotion and pardon two other service members convicted of war crimes this fall, and to preserve Chief Gallagher’s Trident pin by preempting the plans of Navy commanders.

The SEALs’ descriptions portray a fighter unhinged from the military’s mission of defending the nation and dedicated instead to his own desire to spill blood. Chief Gallagher, SEALs said, purposely exposed his soldiers to enemy fire and thought casualties in his platoon could win him a Silver Star. They said he bragged that “burqas were flying” when he shot at women and boasted after an operation that he had killed four of them — with the excuse that he had fired warning shots first. Other members of the platoon, they said, began to spend their days trying to “save civilians from Eddie.

The SEALs called Chief Gallagher a “psychopath.” He was “toxic.” He was “literally the worst of the worst.” His priority for the tour? “War stories at the end.” His motivation? “To kill anybody he can.”

These men broke the customary code of silence maintained by the SEALs because they thought Chief Gallagher’s behavior violated something more sacred: the duty of the men and women who fight for the United States to fight for it honorably. It’s this sacred duty that the president ridicules by allowing “Fox & Friends” and other right-wing media to lobby him into excusing — even rewarding — ethical lapses. What does this say to any soldier who wants to speak up about wrongdoing? Those who tried to hold Chief Gallagher to account are suffering insults on national television, while the petty officer, now retired with full honors, is palling around with the president at Mar-a-Lago.

The story is of a commander in chief who has shown little respect for the chain of command, and little regard for the imperative of military professionalism and virtue. But it’s also the story of individual service members who knew better — and did better. “Let’s not forget there are 7-12 of us in here who had the balls to tell the truth about what Eddie has done,” one of the whistleblower SEALs texted his compatriots. The rest of the country shouldn’t forget, either.

This dude is a ****ing serial killer.

 

[colton]

A nice reminder of this report from 2.5 years ago.

 

[babe]

A few related tweets

Of course I didn't get past the first two pastings here.

All this from the supposedly LDS guy who has done nothing but hate Trump for three years.

hypocrite.

But he can't be helped.

 

[babe]

Trump is justly concerned about endless litigation based on nothing at all. It's been purposed opposition and meant to prevent him from being effective in his elective office, and it's an inconscionable effort to disenfranchise American voters and destroy the American electoral system.

People who support this campaign are immoral and un-American.

 

[The Thriller]

You are so unhinged.

what a weird response. You’re the one calling Trump’s demand for more terms as a joke. Then I show you things that trump has “joked about” but have proven to not be jokes and your response is to call me unhinged?

No wonder why Trump loves the uneducated.

 

[The Thriller]

Looks like the USS Trump just hit another iceberg. It’s becoming more and more obvious that Moscow Mitch will need to allow a real senate trial with witnesses to proceed. He can’t just quickly flush this down the toilet in two weeks without any witnesses and move onto judges. We need a real impeachment trial.











By the way, trump is like totally innocent, right? Only seriously not corrupt and totally innocent presidents would thumb their noses at their secretaries of defense and state and chief of staff. And then demand they not testify in impeachment.

All because he was soooooooo concerned with “corruption.” And soooooo innocent.

amiright? #MAGA #KAG

 

[BabyPeterzz]

According to what I heard there were people there whose goal was to keep the statues in place. I've spent quite a bit of time in small southern communities and can tell you that they take great pride in their history, even with respect to things they may have done wrong in the past. Do you have some sort of evidence that your supposedly explicitly stated goal was the only reason that anyone supported that side?

If (or should I say when) there are marches to remove statues of patriots like Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc. because they did not denounce slavery I would be on the side of those who want the statues to remain, even if there are white nationalists and other putrid groups who also happen to align on that side of the argument. My reasoning for supporting my side of the debate will be completely unrelated to the goals of these fringe groups. Just because they might occasionally support the same cause that I do does not mean we are in alignment. I would assume and hope the same would be true for you when it comes to an issue that the extreme left is aligned with.

How often do white nationalists arguments align with progressives? I’ll wait.


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[Harambe]

Trump is justly concerned about endless litigation based on nothing at all. It's been purposed opposition and meant to prevent him from being effective in his elective office, and it's an inconscionable effort to disenfranchise American voters and destroy the American electoral system.

People who support this campaign are immoral and un-American.

dawnyle has never been afraid of endless litigation, not a single day in his life. Pretending that he is merely enables his political motives.

Clean it up. And keep it tidy.

 

[babe]

dawnyle has never been afraid of endless litigation, not a single day in his life. Pretending that he is merely enables his political motives.

Clean it up. And keep it tidy.

I doubt there is any largely successful person in any field who doesn't know the ropes in manipulating issues and playing rhetorical charades, and I would appreciate seeing less of it myself. What concerns me most in this Trumpdumpsterism is the complete failure of his accusers to raise the appropriate arguments with their own skunks. It is therefore a shameless and hypocritical attack on Trump.