2020 Presidential election

[silesian]

The only thing more inefficient and bloated than government is private enterprise.

restaurants that are inefficient go broke

grocery stores that are inefficient go broke

delivery companies that are inefficient go broke

Department stores that are inefficient go broke.

shall as ll I go on with irrefutable facts?

 

[Harambe]

restaurants that are inefficient go broke

grocery stores that are inefficient go broke

delivery companies that are inefficient go broke

Department stores that are inefficient go broke.

shall as ll I go on with irrefutable facts?

Important to delineate: no one's putting small business owners in as secretary of state.

What do you think I'm trying to illustrate with that statement?

 

[Deleted member 5000]

The only thing more inefficient and bloated than government is private enterprise.

The government set up the laws, infrastructure, and social environment that allowed you to think you are self-made.

The most wrong statement in the history of history, man, wtf

 

[silesian]

Important to delineate: no one's putting small business owners in as secretary of state.

What do you think I'm trying to illustrate with that statement?

That you saw the movie “Up”?

Squirrel!!

 

[Harambe]

That you saw the movie “Up”?

Squirrel!!

Not helpful.

The most wrong statement in the history of history, man, wtf

Have you read a post from eeniemeenie, babe, franklin, hack, or naos lately?

 

[One Brow]

restaurants that are inefficient go broke

grocery stores that are inefficient go broke

delivery companies that are inefficient go broke

Department stores that are inefficient go broke.

shall as ll I go on with irrefutable facts?

Shouldn't you start with facts before you worry about whether they are "irrefutable"?

Let's talk about restaurants. What's a profit margin on an "efficient", busy restaurant? What's the margin on an "inefficient" one? What are the main drivers of traffic? What's your typical food wastage percentage, and how much does that affect profitability?

I worked in restaurants for years.

Sorry, but your religion is as empty as any other.

 

[One Brow]

The most wrong statement in the history of history, man, wtf

It's as true as a statement can be. Sorry that interferes with your religious belief.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

OMG did you ask them why they were throwing the food out? Do you know why? LMAO

 

[The Thriller]

Yes you’re right roughly 35-45% of University costs are payed by the public already. Tuition pays for about 45-50%.
And I see what you’re saying about wealth vs aptitude. I’ve dealt with that and I found plenty of opportunities to be successful at University, plenty. For those who want to get an education there are an abundance of resources to help you, credit our current system with that.

There are so many worthy causes to spend national funds on but that doesn’t mean government should take the money I’ve worked so hard to gain. In the end government is inefficient and bloated. And a major portion of all the time(work) they take from me is wasted. That’s why I see needless spending as unethical.

You would take money from me for something public sentiment(that is ever changing, and a truly awful gauge of morality) may deem as good and charitable, when I could easily give to charities far more effective or spend that money and actually increase value in our community (which is good for society).

There are a lot of good purpose for government, and from what I've seen as a student if you really want to increase government spending there would be better uses.

So you find it unethical that the government takes money from you? But couldn’t that rational be used against any government service? What’s the role that government should government to you? I’m guessing you’re more of a libertarian, right?

 

[The Thriller]

Shouldn't you start with facts before you worry about whether they are "irrefutable"?

Let's talk about restaurants. What's a profit margin on an "efficient", busy restaurant? What's the margin on an "inefficient" one? What are the main drivers of traffic? What's your typical food wastage percentage, and how much does that affect profitability?

I worked in restaurants for years.

Sorry, but your religion is as empty as any other.

I worked at a Utah Brazilian buffet for 3 years and one prominent Italian one for 1. I too can attest to the waste, inefficiency, and overall poor management of the food industry. So I’m interested in how this discussion will play out

 

[PJF]

The Democrat candidates suck so badly.

 

[Jazzta]

For the first time I wasn’t interested enough in watching the debate.

 

[Beer]

After listening to Bernie on Rogans pod and actually hearing him be able to go into detail about his plans made me think he is a lot less crazy than people think. Also if Warren would wipe my student loan debt out I'd vote for her and go down on her for hours on end. Will probably vote for Bernie though because I genuinely believe he is a good human being.

 

[Zombie]

and go down on her for hours on end

Go on...

 

[One Brow]

OMG did you ask them why they were throwing the food out? Do you know why? LMAO

Since I was a manager at a couple of places, it was my job to know why. If you really want to talk about how important efficiency is to restaurants, we can have that discussion. Fair warning, it will violate your religious principles with regard to capitalism.

 

[silesian]

Shouldn't you start with facts before you worry about whether they are "irrefutable"?

Let's talk about restaurants. What's a profit margin on an "efficient", busy restaurant? What's the margin on an "inefficient" one? What are the main drivers of traffic? What's your typical food wastage percentage, and how much does that affect profitability?

I worked in restaurants for years.

Sorry, but your religion is as empty as any other.

Were you a hospitality economist or were you busing tables?

Some restaurants are inefficient at driving traffic
Some restaurants are inefficient and waste food
Which particular dimension has the most impact at business profitability and sustainability is besides the point

The point is that less efficient restaurants fail and more efficient restaurants survive.

PS: no religious belief is required to comprehend the empirical fact that capitalism drives competition which drives quality. It only requires observations and some math.

 

[One Brow]

Were you a hospitality economist or were you busing tables?

I bused tables, washed dishes, waited tables, prep cooked, cooked, and managed in different places. I'm not aware there is such a thing as a "hospitality economist"; what's a typical hospitality economist job like?

Some restaurants are inefficient at driving traffic

Creationists also like to redefine words. You're conflating "successful" or "effective" with "efficient", unless you mean that valets sometimes drive cars around the block three times before they park them or that restaurants with long hallways in the entrance struggle.

Some restaurants are inefficient and waste food

All restaurants are inefficient and waste food. If you're not wasting food, you degrading quality. Are you really that ignorant of the restaurant industry?

Which particular dimension has the most impact at business profitability and sustainability is besides the point

Not to the guy that owns the restaurant.

The point is that less efficient restaurants fail and more efficient restaurants survive.

The point is you're wrong, and anyone trying to run a restaurant whose primary orientation is efficiency will fail (yes, that also goes for fast food places). I understand this violates your religious beliefs; get a better religion.

PS: no religious belief is required to comprehend the empirical fact that capitalism drives competition which drives quality. It only requires observations and some math.

In the restaurant industry (and many others), quality and efficiency are opposed.

More generally, for every industry you can name where capitalism improved quality, I can name two where it degraded quality. Unregulated capitalism is more dangerous for the poor than any other economic system.

 

[Jazzta]

After listening to Bernie on Rogans pod and actually hearing him be able to go into detail about his plans made me think he is a lot less crazy than people think. Also if Warren would wipe my student loan debt out I'd vote for her and go down on her for hours on end. Will probably vote for Bernie though because I genuinely believe he is a good human being.

One thing is clear, Bernie would get to work on day 1. No drama, no BS, just start making things happen.

 

[Just Ted]

After listening to Bernie on Rogans pod and actually hearing him be able to go into detail about his plans made me think he is a lot less crazy than people think. Also if Warren would wipe my student loan debt out I'd vote for her and go down on her for hours on end. Will probably vote for Bernie though because I genuinely believe he is a good human being.

Then she can wipe out my Mortgage and Car loans as well. Seriously, what the hell? Why are we expecting other tax payers to pay for our student loans? Oh yeah, so Bernie can put us all in Gulags and re-educate us.

 

[Just Ted]

I've spent the last two weeks reading three of Bernie's books. I wanted to really know what this guy was about. To be honest I do believe he has some good ideas. I like that he is looking out for the whole instead of the single person. The main problem I see with his views is he doesn't live them and he doesn't seem to have a true path to pay for it all. He would have to have ultimate buy in from not only the majority of the country, but probably about 95% to make it work. I read the following books: Outsider in the Whitehouse, Our Revolution and Bernie speaks. I wasn't well versed on his stances, only heard he was a socialist, which he def is. Like I said, I love some of the ideas, but not sure how he gets the buy in to follow through.

Edit: I won't read anything by Warren. Don't trust her, won't vote her. I just wonder why out of the millions of people and thousands of politicians we can't get someone that can truly compete on a national scale against Trump. And this is coming from a guy who likes the economics of Trump, but wants to see more decorum and more togetherness in the country.