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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

The Thriller said:
Speaking of @Joe Bagadonuts. Remember John Solomon? I’m old enough to remember when @sirkickyass warned us about Solomon’s disinformation campaign and Joe disagreed. Guess he was wrong.



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Glad someone remembers. Fox News even cited the same sources for Solomon's stories that I was trying to red flag to Joe.

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Honestly, this whole process has been very disheartening for me. I made it a defining feature of my life for the last two and a half years to really understand Russia/Ukraine and ran straight into the realization that half the country has decided expertise is meaningless.
 
sirkickyass said:
Glad someone remembers. Fox News even cited the same sources for Solomon's stories that I was trying to red flag to Joe.

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Honestly, this whole process has been very disheartening for me. I made it a defining feature of my life for the last two and a half years to really understand Russia/Ukraine and ran straight into the realization that half the country has decided expertise is meaningless.
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Truth and understanding have lost. Partisanship wins

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JazzyFresh said:
Yes, it's a NYT propaganda opinion piece with nothing more than hearsay. Nothing more.
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Widespread republican senator hatred of trump is a slam dunk. They give off the record statements all the time. No courage to speak out. They will go on record after they and trump is out of office. Even trumpsters know this and call it the deep state. But put your head back in the sand if you like.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I just find the label irrelevant. I'm asking you what makes it relevant. I keep hearing the left scream "IMPEACHED FOREVER" and me I just don't see how it changes a single thing. Like it's some sort of victory


I'm genuinely curious.
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America loses. No one wins.

what are your thoughts on the trump “impeached but not convicted” victory tour? Seems as bad as the Dems cheering victory for impeachment, if we are all being honest about it.
 
silesian said:
America loses. No one wins.

what are your thoughts on the trump “impeached but not convicted” victory tour? Seems as bad as the Dems cheering victory for impeachment, if we are all being honest about it.
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I think it's absolutely warranted for a small amount of time. The left and even you guys and your "let's impeach Trump" thread (basically looking for any reason to impeach an elected official) have been relentless since day one with your bs #resist radicalization. He had a stern speech and I hope he gets back to runninh this country like a well oiled machine rather than continuing to give the obstructionist the time of day. He needs to focus on the country not what these deranged tyrants will do next.

We all know they can't beat them him fair and square. It's actually quite soothing watching the absolute destruction of the radical Democratic party. They are in shambles right now. Hell they don't even know what they are anymore and I'm glad many on the left like Chris Mathews are starting to call this socialist/communist agenda what it is. Finally.... Maybe Democrats can start learning towards liberalism rather than extremism and win in 2024 but I don't have high hopes.
 
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JazzyFresh said:
I think it's absolutely warranted for a small amount of time. The left and even you guys and your "let's impeach Trump" thread (basically looking for any reason to impeach an elected official) have been relentless since day one with your bs #resist radicalization. He had a stern speech and I hope he gets back to runninh this country like a well oiled machine rather than continuing to give the obstructionist the time of day. He needs to focus on the country not what these deranged tyrants will do next.

We all know they can't beat them him fair and square. It's actually quite soothing watching the absolute destruction of the radical Democratic party. They are in shambles right now. Hell they don't even know what they are anymore and I'm glad many on the left like Chris Mathews are starting to call this socialist/communist agenda what it is. Finally.... Maybe Democrats can start learning towards liberalism rather than extremism and win in 2024 but I don't have high hopes.
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Can't beat him fair and square. Lol at the foolish irony of that statement

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fishonjazz said:
Can't beat him fair and square. Lol at the foolish irony of that statement

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Well it should be fair game to go get foreign government help to beat Trump, right? That's the new standard. You can also use whatever political office you hold to try to offer foreign officials favors or whatever else to help you damage your political rivals. This is all fair game now. This is perfectly acceptable. I know this because I listened to Trump's defense team tell me this.
 
silesian said:
If you believe that comprehension is not a critical component of intellect, then there is not much hope for you.

If you want to tell me what you believe I failed to comprehend we can have that debate. Otherwise, go back to your bubble.
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Trump needs to ratchet down the confrontation with Dems about a thousand percent because he is playing a huge role in creating the terrible political environment we face. Trump need to lighten up on the way he talks about the media because even though I can understand why he is so angry with them, he is not helping the situation. Trump does a lot wrong in my eyes.
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Communicating with some of you guys sometimes gives me insight into why the president tweets the way he does. It's very hard to remain polite when the other side is spewing such vitriol and hate.
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silesian said:
Trump is very polite.

He never spews vitriol and hate.

I need to check my calendar, it must be cognitive dissonance day.
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
I'd recommend you check your comprehension instead.
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I have never suggested that Trump is polite or anything close to it. When I said that it was sometimes hard for me to post with politeness when people respond with such anger and vitriol you incorrectly comprehended that I was claiming Trump is polite. Do you see what I'm saying about comprehension? Incorrectly comprehending something is not a slam on intellect. People make mistakes in comprehension all the time. Usually they can be cleared up with a little communication.
 
Gameface said:
Well it should be fair game to go get foreign government help to beat Trump, right? That's the new standard. You can also use whatever political office you hold to try to offer foreign officials favors or whatever else to help you damage your political rivals. This is all fair game now. This is perfectly acceptable. I know this because I listened to Trump's defense team tell me this.
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Like the Steele Dossier?
 
JazzyFresh said:
Like the Steele Dossier?
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This has already been explained to you, likely more then once. You know this already. Steele was a private citizen. The British government was not involved at all in Steele's work. There is zero comparison to what @Gameface is saying. And you already knew this. But, because you have never really been an honest broker in any of the Trump discussions, you think nothing of trotting out something that you already know is not a comparison that can be made. And this is why I seldom read replies from you, directed to me. Because I know, without even looking, that you will not reply in a manner that acknowledges anything other then your own misleading and erroneous points.
 
Red said:
This has already been explained to you, likely more then once. You know this already. Steele was a private citizen. The British government was not involved at all in Steele's work. There is zero comparison to what @Gameface is saying. And you already knew this. But, because you have never really been an honest broker in any of the Trump discussions, you think nothing of trotting out something that you already know is not a comparison that can be made. And this is why I seldom read replies from you, directed to me. Because I know, without even looking, that you will not reply in a manner that acknowledges anything other then your own misleading and erroneous points.
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Disagree, I think you're telling me what the media told you to believe. He was a past foreign agent. He was paid by Hillary's.
 
And you a are missing the point. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for an investigation. Nothing besides some fairy tale fantasy.
 
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