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fishonjazz said:
It's your crappy posting style mostly. Or idk.
Ask any of the other many posters that don't like you. Seems like most posters that get into a discussion with you end up having problems with you.
But it isn't that way for all other Trump supporting posters on jazzfanz. You figure it out.

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So you can't provide any examples beides that I'm a Trump supporter. You really can't. Not one.

Ps who are these Trump supporters you're talking about?
 
JazzyFresh said:
He didn't. The entire party has shifted into some sort of Socialist but not Socialist even though there's Socialist right in the name of "Democratic socialist" party. Now even the once progressives have to appeal to the extremism anti Progressive platforms.
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Not even close. There is very little daylight between the policies of Obama and what Buttigeig, Klobuchar, or Biden are supporting, and the Democratic billionaire financiers are solidly behind them. Most of the party's leaders are pretty close to where Clinton/Obama were.
 
JazzyFresh said:
So you can't provide any examples beides that I'm a Trump supporter. You really can't. Not one.

Ps who are these Trump supporters you're talking about?
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I provided you the example of your crappy posting style. That's the example.
Like how you demand answers from people then when you get the answer you simply disregard it. That is one example. (Like you are going to do with this answer I just gave you in this post)

Having a conversation with you is so tedious. Speaking of which, I'm moving on now.

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One Brow said:
Not even close. There is very little daylight between the policies of Obama and what Buttigeig, Klobuchar, or Biden are supporting, and the Democratic billionaire financiers are solidly behind them. Most of the party's leaders are pretty close to where Clinton/Obama were.
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I guess... I don't really see it. Sadly it probably gets drowned out by the popularity that Marxism has become within the party. I think that is why the left is struggling so bad right now is that they have went waaaay to far away from their roots. They have lost their true identity. If you don't agree explain why Bernie is surging.
 
fishonjazz said:
I provided you the example of your crappy posting style. That's the example.
Like how you demand answers from people then when you get the answer you simply disregard it. That is one example. (Like you are going to do with this answer I just gave you in this post)

Having a conversation with you is so tedious. Speaking of which, I'm moving on now.

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K, then stop quoting me. If you think I'm that terrible, then just ignore me. It's not a terribly hard thing to ask for. I've asked multiple times. I never initially quote you, never. It's always you quoting me. So hell yeah , I'd be fine if you never speak of me again. I've asked multiple times for this? Deal? You probably won't agree because you're obsessed with me all creepy.
 
JazzyFresh said:
K, then stop quoting me. If you think I'm that terrible, then just ignore me. It's not a terribly hard thing to ask for. I've asked multiple times. I never initially quote you, never. It's always you quoting me. So hell yeah , I'd be fine if you never speak of me again. I've asked multiple times for this? Deal? You probably won't agree because you're obsessed with me all creepy.
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That's the other thing. You like to paint yourself as a victim.

I will post how I want when I want. You post how you want when you want.


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fishonjazz said:
That's the other thing. You like to paint yourself as a victim.

I will post how I want when I want. You post how you want when you want.


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See you just can't help it... You are mentally ill bro and I don't mean that as an insult. You have an obsessive compulsion toward me and it's almost to the point of getting a restraining order before you hurt yourself or your sister in your pic. I've asked to respectively part ways but you can't... You just can't get away from me.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm definitely ok with her flying on a private jet. As was previously stated, private jets are incredibly irrelevant to the environmental issues the world faces in comparison to just about everything else.

And i do not see her sneaking. Like I said, if she didn't want to be seen then she could have accomplished that by having people surround her in a tight formation instead of spreading her "cover" so far away from herself.
Couldn't the person filming just take a couple steps to the left or right to get a better shot of her? Maybe they intentionally filmed from that angle to make it appear like she was sneaking and the goal was never to get her on the camera much but instead to make her appear to be sneaking (to the gullible fools that would follow this anyway) to promote an agenda.

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Oh yeah, you're probably right. The cameraman anticipated the formation they would walk in from the plane and perfectly positioned himself to destroy her reputation. That sneaky bastard!

(If your sarcasm detector is screeching right now then I am happy to report that it is in good working order.)

And regarding your claim that private jets are incredibly irrelevant to environmental issues, what the hell are you talking about? First of all, Warren obviously disagrees with you because she has previously claimed that she flies commercial in order to reduce her carbon footprint. Second of all, there is no mathematical way that anyone could purport that a person traveling by private jet does not use a massively larger amount of fuel and therefore create more of those nasty greenhouse gasses that everyone on the left agrees are the biggest threat the planet is facing. There's no way that you can have this one both ways.

And by the way, I think you may be on an island of one if you honestly believe she wasn't hiding from that camera because of the private plane. Hilarious.
 
JazzyFresh said:
See you just can't help it... You are mentally ill bro and I don't mean that as an insult. You have an obsessive compulsion toward me and it's almost to the point of getting a restraining order before you hurt yourself or your sister in your pic. I've asked to respectively part ways but you can't... You just can't get away from me.
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I'm rubber you're glue. You seem obsessed with me.
Btw, remember that you asked me to give you examples. I was only doing what you asked.

So you just proved my first example I gave you to be true. (How you demand answers and then get them and just disregard them)



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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Oh yeah, you're probably right. The cameraman anticipated the formation they would walk in from the plane and perfectly positioned himself to destroy her reputation. That sneaky bastard!

(If your sarcasm detector is screeching right now then I am happy to report that it is in good working order.)

And regarding your claim that private jets are incredibly irrelevant to environmental issues, what the hell are you talking about? First of all, Warren obviously disagrees with you because she has previously claimed that she flies commercial in order to reduce her carbon footprint. Second of all, there is no mathematical way that anyone could purport that a person traveling by private jet does not use a massively larger amount of fuel and therefore create more of those nasty greenhouse gasses that everyone on the left agrees are the biggest threat the planet is facing. There's no way that you can have this one both ways.

And by the way, I think you may be on an island of one if you honestly believe she wasn't hiding from that camera because of the private plane. Hilarious.
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So you do think that the best way to hide from someone is to have a few small people walk way ahead of you?

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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Unreal. I think the best way to end this conversation would be for you to admit what everyone else can see plain as day. You are coming off as a pure partisan hack. This is not a hill worth dying on.
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Who else in this thread has said it looks like she is sneaking?
What makes you think it's clear as day to everyone else that she is sneaking if no one else has commented on it?

So you think what you saw in that video is the best way to be hidden or do you think it might work better to be in a tighter cluster formation with bigger bodies?

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fishonjazz said:
Who else in this thread has said it looks like she is sneaking?
What makes you think it's clear as day to everyone else that she is sneaking if no one else has commented on it?

So you think what you saw in that video is the best way to be hidden or do you think it might work better to be in a tighter cluster formation with bigger bodies?

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I think it might have worked better if she had put a cardboard box over her head, so I guess you could be right. She didn't hide in the best possible way (unless you consider that it might have been the best available option from the moment that she spotted the camera) so she must not have been hiding at all. (I assume that you will be willing to apply that "She wasn't hiding because she didn't hide in the best possible way" logic to Trump's Russia, Ukraine, etc. issues too, right?)

There are tons of articles and posts from people who see this moment for what it was:
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Can you find any from people who agree with you that she just happened to be hidden (or even better that the cameraman planned this in advance)?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think it might have worked better if she had put a cardboard box over her head, so I guess you could be right. She didn't hide in the best possible way (unless you consider that it might have been the best available option from the moment that she spotted the camera) so she must not have been hiding at all. (I assume that you will be willing to apply that "She wasn't hiding because she didn't hide in the best possible way" logic to Trump's Russia, Ukraine, etc. issues too, right?)

There are tons of articles and posts from people who see this moment for what it was:
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Can you find any from people who agree with you that she just happened to be hidden (or even better that the cameraman planned this in advance)?
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What do you think would have happened if the cameraman took a couple steps to the left or the right?
It would seem that the cameraman was trying to film Warren. If you were a cameraman trying to film someone and there were obstacles in your way do you think you would try to position yourself for a better shot? Why do you think this person didn't?
Do you think it would be better for hiding if you were in a tighter cluster? Even without a cardboard box? (strawman argument)

As for you saying that other people think she was hiding too.... Others falling for fake news does little too sway me. I just use my eyes and logic. I don't see anyone trying very hard to hide. Also don't see anyone trying very hard to capture her on camera.
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People would rather blame people like my father who worked in coal, commuted every single day and left hardly a footprint rather than the person lecturing us about carbon footprints while polluting more into the atmosphere in one trip than he did in a year. These elites pouring emissions into the atmosphere for any little award show or meeting lecturing us little piss ons how it's our fault.
 
JazzyFresh said:
People would rather blame people like my father who worked in coal, commuted every single day and left hardly a footprint rather than the person lecturing us about carbon footprints while polluting more into the atmosphere in one trip than he did in a year. These elites pouring emissions into the atmosphere for any little award show or meeting lecturing us little piss ons how it's our fault.
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Nobody is blaming blaming coal miners for climate change.

You ****ing dip.
 
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JazzyFresh said:
********. Maybe not here as we haven't discussed it but I've been called some pretty nasty things for being procoal.
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Calling out the destruction of the various fossil fuel industries is not at all the same thing as blaming coal miners. Get real.
 
fishonjazz said:
What do you think would have happened if the cameraman took a couple steps to the left or the right?
It would seem that the cameraman was trying to film Warren. If you were a cameraman trying to film someone and there were obstacles in your way do you think you would try to position yourself for a better shot? Why do you think this person didn't?
Do you think it would be better for hiding if you were in a tighter cluster? Even without a cardboard box? (strawman argument)

As for you saying that other people think she was hiding too.... Others falling for fake news does little too sway me. I just use my eyes and logic. I don't see anyone trying very hard to hide. Also don't see anyone trying very hard to capture her on camera.
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I don't know whether it would have been possible for the camera operator to move. It's interesting to me that you have found a way to convince yourself that what appears so obvious is not the case. It's clear to me that we are all very susceptible to seeing the world through our own partisan lens.
 
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Calling out the destruction of the various fossil fuel industries is not at all the same thing as blaming coal miners. Get real.
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Dude... I've seen it first hand. I have been called the equivalent of Hitler for it. You can refuse to believe me but I swear it on my Grandmothers grave. That's something I don't do lightly. People have directly blamed my father as well.
 
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